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Old 09-18-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Yes you can deport 10 million. Eisenhower has shown the way.
Those that overstay, hunt them down and summarily eject them.

Follow existing black letter law. No need for reform.
What Ike did was blatantly illegal. Ignored due process and deported American Citizens. Up there with the internment of the Japanese as a demonstration that we are often not the law abiding people we claim to be.

It would never fly today as we have a large and well established Hispanic population who will not allow throwing people into cattle cars because they speak Spanish.

About half of the illegals now are over stayers. We have maybe 10% of the capability we would need to find them and throw them out.

The view that there is a solution with the present laws just testifies to the lack of reason and logic among part of our population.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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No freebies? Lol

Two immediate examples: they are eligible for emergency medicaid as well as WIC.
More nonsense. Emergency medical care is considered simply a demonstration of basic humanity. We do not allow anyone to die in the street in front of the hospital.

WIC primarily serves American Citizen children. You really want them sick and starved?
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:16 PM
 
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What Ike did was blatantly illegal. Ignored due process and deported American Citizens. Up there with the internment of the Japanese as a demonstration that we are often not the law abiding people we claim to be.

It would never fly today as we have a large and well established Hispanic population who will not allow throwing people into cattle cars because they speak Spanish.

About half of the illegals now are over stayers. We have maybe 10% of the capability we would need to find them and throw them out.

The view that there is a solution with the present laws just testifies to the lack of reason and logic among part of our population.
If existing laws won't work, why have Democrats been scrambling to make sanctuary cities and states that help avoid deportation due to existing laws?

The DNC wants open borders.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:19 PM
 
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More nonsense. Emergency medical care is considered simply a demonstration of basic humanity. We do not allow anyone to die in the street in front of the hospital.

WIC primarily serves American Citizen children. You really want them sick and starved?
We DEPORT them AFTER they ate treated. Do you agree or disagree with this.

I'm not saying cut off WIC to citizens, but to illegals. WIC skould not go to any illegals. Agree or disagree?

Like I said, examples of freebies.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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If existing laws won't work, why have Democrats been scrambling to make sanctuary cities and states that help avoid deportation due to existing laws?

The DNC wants open borders.
Still the garbage. There is no one of import on the Democrat side that wants open borders. In fact the only I have ever heard advocate that are some radical libertarians.

The 2013 compromise would have strengthened the border and improved EVerify. It was blocked by the Republican leadership in the house.

That locals refuse to assist in a doomed Federal stupidity is actually quite rational.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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We DEPORT them AFTER they ate treated. Do you agree or disagree with this.

I'm not saying cut off WIC to citizens, but to illegals. WIC skould not go to any illegals. Agree or disagree?

Like I said, examples of freebies.
Absurd yet again. The Feds going to provide an expert to each emergency room to rule on the status of each patient? Who is going to pay for that?

The children who are assisted by WIC are virtually all American Citizens. You really want to turn down basic aid and food to citizens. And I am inclined to believe even illegal children who get WIC are very likely to end up citizens when this thing eventually crumbles.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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Still the garbage. There is no one of import on the Democrat side that wants open borders. In fact the only I have ever heard advocate that are some radical libertarians.

The 2013 compromise would have strengthened the border and improved EVerify. It was blocked by the Republican leadership in the house.

That locals refuse to assist in a doomed Federal stupidity is actually quite rational.
Wrong; otherwise tbey wouldn't have sanctuary states and cities that don't want illegals deported.

If it was free to deport illegals, would you want them deported?
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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Absurd yet again. The Feds going to provide an expert to each emergency room to rule on the status of each patient? Who is going to pay for that?

The children who are assisted by WIC are virtually all American Citizens. You really want to turn down basic aid and food to citizens. And I am inclined to believe even illegal children who get WIC are very likely to end up citizens when this thing eventually crumbles.
I justwent to the ER the other day and had to present a valid ID.

If they don't have valid ID, call ICE.

We only end WIC for illegals. Its quite simple.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:34 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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DACA could easily be delivered if the Dems would agree to the wall and immigration reform. The truth is the Dems want to continue this argument, using the so-called Dreamers as a pawn. They don't want immigration reform or a wall because their constant stream of eventual voters would stop coming.
Dems previously agreed to give Trump billions for the wall in exchange for the Dreamers. Trump turned it down.
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Old 09-18-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Trump already offered the Dems, DACA if they would support building the wall and they refused. I don't know what "reform" was on the table as we all know that reform is just a code word for amnesty. The Dems want it all their way or the highway. Ain't gonna happen and rightly so!

Legalization is what will cause the problem to grow just like back in 1986. Just as long as we keep rewarding those who violate our immigration laws they will continue to keep coming for the next amnesty. It's already been proven.
BS. The Dems offered Trump $25B for his wall in exchange for just parts of DACA and Trump rejected it. And Trump rejected two other deals the Dems brought to him for his wall.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/shutdow...ng-11547498818
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