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Old 09-23-2019, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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According to a report from the Seattle Times, most homeless are locals down on their luck, not transplants. The study said around 86% were local and another 6% were from elsewhere in the state - only around 8% were from out of state or illegal aliens. If these stats are anywhere close to those in CA, the great majority of the homeless are from the blue state of CA or illegals.
Although San Francisco is cold at night in winter and often the summer too because of the fog. ,that's not an issue in LA. It rains constantly in Seattle though. If I was homeless and I was going to pi k a state to live in, it sure wouldn't be Seattle.
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Old 09-23-2019, 04:57 AM
 
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Quit taxing people out of their homes.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:14 AM
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Location: ^##
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Exactly.

Send those homeless back to their hometowns in red states. This is really their problem.

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I doubt many of them come from what you call "red states" anymore.
I hardly know of anyone who's moved out there in the last 20-30 years. I do know a TON of people who have moved back this way from California.

One thing I'd like to point out here is that liberal Californians with all their compassion aren't exactly hesitant to pay the premium prices for their own homes.
That half a million+ people pay for a mundane suburban rancher out there would buy a whole block of nicer houses in many other parts of the country.
If they'd just dial back their enthusiasm for overpriced housing, perhaps a few more people could afford to get off the streets.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It is NOT "10 years" it is "10 years or less" - meaning if a person lives in SF for 1 year and 1 day, that person falls under the "10 year or less" category.

I can't back up anything because no one has explained how they got this data. I came across many homeless in my daily routine, about 2 out of 5 are high, spaced out, not mentally there, or passed out; I can't figure out how the study managed to get coherent answers out of them. And I can't figure out how they gathered the data without going to where many homeless live.

Maybe you can explain to me.


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HUD requires annual Point in Time head counts of every municipality receiving federal funds to shelter homeless people. The count is executed by volunteers throughout the US during the last 10 days in January.
These counts have no reasonable way of estimating those who are homeless and temporarily sheltering in cars, couch surfing and shelters not intended for human occupation.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:51 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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And what is YOUR solution to the homeless crisis?
Deport the 9 million people not supposed to be in CA? What do I win?
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Old 09-23-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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Fix the problem by making housing more affordable and paying a decent wage. Even if the minimum wage is raised to $15, some people still won't be able to afford even a studio apartment plus utilities, car payment, insurance, etc.
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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I doubt many of them come from what you call "red states" anymore.
I hardly know of anyone who's moved out there in the last 20-30 years. I do know a TON of people who have moved back this way from California.

One thing I'd like to point out here is that liberal Californians with all their compassion aren't exactly hesitant to pay the premium prices for their own homes.
That half a million+ people pay for a mundane suburban rancher out there would buy a whole block of nicer houses in many other parts of the country.
If they'd just dial back their enthusiasm for overpriced housing, perhaps a few more people could afford to get off the streets.

The premium prices is called supply and demand. It's why one share of Amazon stock is $1,700+ and one share of Sea Drill is $2 bucks and change. You can't just "dial back" a market economy - it doesn't work that way. It'd be like saying, "Everyone could afford a share of Amazon if all the investors just dial back." It's a rubbish argument.


It doesn't make that many people migrating from red states to create a homeless problem in SF. There are about 6,000+ homeless (less than 1% of the population) in SF. If half of them comes from red states - that means each year if just two down-on-luck persons from each county decide to move to SF, it'd be more than sufficient to make SF what it is.


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Old 09-23-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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It’s not like there are huge numbers of properties sitting vacant in California because nobody can afford them.

The vast majority of residences are occupied. So, until the production of housing outstrips population growth, or if the population significantly shrinks, I don’t see how giving away free and subsidized housing will make one bit of difference.
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Boston
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this isn't a people problem it's a money problem. Cali needs to raise their state and local taxes by 20% and take care of these poor people. Why are they so stingy?
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Old 09-23-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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What they never mention as part of the preassure that causes high prices and high demand for housing is the number of illegals. Send a million or so of those people who are here illegally, and that would help.

I think its funny. Some posters are all for deporting US citizens from other states that are there legally, but not people who are in the US illegally.
It's not just illegals.

Legal immigrants (like wealthy Chinese) also drive up housing prices, sometimes into the stratosphere.
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