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This is such a disingenuous post. Climate change is not a single, quick event. Let’s take an example out to its conclusion.
The Great Barrier Reef is dying, as are reefs worldwide due to warming seas. Entire ecosystems depend solely on reefs to survive, while other ecosystems rely on the animal life in the reef ecosystems to survive, and so on. About $1.5 billion people rely on all those ecosystems to work, as seafood is the primary source of their diets, not to mention all the people who depend on fishing and related industries for their incomes. Now what happens when it dies and fish populations plummet or go extinct? What happens to all those people and all those jobs? They start putting more pressure on the land instead, burning more Amazon, destroying more rivers, pumping more pollution into the atmosphere. Then we have a billion people wanting to move elsewhere for a better life because they’ve lost their livelihoods. Where do they go? Suddenly there are mass migrations into other countries, similar to Syrian refugees or greater. This raises social and political tensions. Wars break out. The climate continues to change, and more and more people have to adapt to survive. And so on and so on. Climate change doesn’t have to be an immediate Armageddon or even spell the end of human itself. But there will be cascading effects that will make life harder and harder for all. Humanity may survive, but it won’t be anywhere near current numbers and anywhere near the same conditions. This isn’t fear mongering. This isn’t guesswork or propaganda. It’s not fake news or a Chinese hoax. It’s what will come to pass if we choose to do nothing. To many people, the future is not important enough to protect. Whether we survive as a species is incidental, because most of the future generations, our children and their children and their children after that, won’t. That is what we’re choosing.
early 2012, scientists at San Diego's Scripps Institution of Oceanography and other authors published a study showing how much the pH level (measuring alkalinity versus acidity) varies naturally between parts of the ocean and at different times of the day, month and year.
you might even consider the fact that corals became common in the oceans during the Ordovician Era – nearly 500 million years ago – when atmospheric CO2 levels were about 10X greater than they are today
In a recent experiment in the Mediterranean, reported in Nature Climate Change, corals and mollusks were transplanted to lower pH sites, where they proved "able to calcify and grow at even faster than normal rates when exposed to the high [carbon-dioxide] levels projected for the next 300 years." In any case, freshwater mussels thrive in Scottish rivers, where the pH is as low as five
“Coral Reefs
September 2004, Volume 23, Issue 3, p 444
“Low temperatures cause coral bleaching”
O. Hoegh-Guldberg, M. Fine ”
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Abstract – 1983
A dead Central American coral reef tract: Possible link with the Little Ice Age
…..Coral growth in the Gulf of Papagayo consisted mainly of dead reefs that died from 150–300 years B.P. The 18O records revealed that most of the dead reefs were exposed to relatively cool water immediately preceding death. We propose that during the latter part of the Little Ice Age there was probably an equatorward shift of the Northern Trade Wind system, which caused an intensification of upwelling at lower latitudes. This increased upwelling was the likely cause of the demise of coral reefs in the Gulf of Papagayo. http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...0003/art000100
‘Scientists shocked to find coral reef in murky waters off Iraq’
9 March 2014 Gulf News
Seems like the science isn’t settled……..
“These conditions were thought to make the waters inhospitable to coral. But it appears marine biologists had underestimated the adaptability of these invertebrate underwater creatures”
“We were entirely surprised to find living coral reef under such harsh conditions,” the research team reported on Thursday in the journal Scientific Reports. “Extensive coral reefs do not typically develop under conditions where nutrient and suspended sediment concentrations are acutely or chronically very high.”
The reef they found covers an area of nearly 28 square kilometres and is seven to 20 metres beneath the surface, according to the study. The temperature and salinity of the waters there change rapidly, and visibility is low. http://gulfnews.com/news/world/usa/s...iraq-1.1301247
Scientists shocked to find coral reef in murky waters off Iraq | GulfNews.com
Fortunately, none of the climate change deniers here on CD live in one of the island nations of the world. Otherwise, they might have a different opinion on the subject.
Fortunately, none of the climate change deniers here on CD live in one of the island nations of the world. Otherwise, they might have a different opinion on the subject.
I and my family have lived on Long Island (new York) for 6 generations...the pier that my Grandfather build on Peconic bay 110 yeas ago still stands... and the tide mark has not changed
early 2012, scientists at San Diego's Scripps Institution of Oceanography and other authors published a study showing how much the pH level (measuring alkalinity versus acidity) varies naturally between parts of the ocean and at different times of the day, month and year.
you might even consider the fact that corals became common in the oceans during the Ordovician Era – nearly 500 million years ago – when atmospheric CO2 levels were about 10X greater than they are today
In a recent experiment in the Mediterranean, reported in Nature Climate Change, corals and mollusks were transplanted to lower pH sites, where they proved "able to calcify and grow at even faster than normal rates when exposed to the high [carbon-dioxide] levels projected for the next 300 years." In any case, freshwater mussels thrive in Scottish rivers, where the pH is as low as five
“Coral Reefs
September 2004, Volume 23, Issue 3, p 444
“Low temperatures cause coral bleaching”
O. Hoegh-Guldberg, M. Fine ”
=====================
Abstract – 1983
A dead Central American coral reef tract: Possible link with the Little Ice Age
…..Coral growth in the Gulf of Papagayo consisted mainly of dead reefs that died from 150–300 years B.P. The 18O records revealed that most of the dead reefs were exposed to relatively cool water immediately preceding death. We propose that during the latter part of the Little Ice Age there was probably an equatorward shift of the Northern Trade Wind system, which caused an intensification of upwelling at lower latitudes. This increased upwelling was the likely cause of the demise of coral reefs in the Gulf of Papagayo. http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...0003/art000100
‘Scientists shocked to find coral reef in murky waters off Iraq’
9 March 2014 Gulf News
Seems like the science isn’t settled……..
“These conditions were thought to make the waters inhospitable to coral. But it appears marine biologists had underestimated the adaptability of these invertebrate underwater creatures”
“We were entirely surprised to find living coral reef under such harsh conditions,” the research team reported on Thursday in the journal Scientific Reports. “Extensive coral reefs do not typically develop under conditions where nutrient and suspended sediment concentrations are acutely or chronically very high.”
The reef they found covers an area of nearly 28 square kilometres and is seven to 20 metres beneath the surface, according to the study. The temperature and salinity of the waters there change rapidly, and visibility is low. http://gulfnews.com/news/world/usa/s...iraq-1.1301247
Scientists shocked to find coral reef in murky waters off Iraq | GulfNews.com
It’s not false. Reefs are dying worldwide and the vast majority of science supports the cause. Just more denial.
I was initially concerned about what the research project would find, but happy to hear divers had thought ‘the Reef was dead’ but after diving they were ‘amazed to see the Reef in such great condition.'” https://www.deeperblue.com/divers-pe...live-and-well/
Great Barrier Reef’s death ‘fake news’: tourism veteran
You will be pleasantly surprised about how alive the Great Barrier Reef really is, and its abundance of beautiful healthy corals, and massive schools of brightly coloured fish, https://www.couriermail.com.au/subsc...s&mode=premium
Surprise! The Great Barrier Reef is Not Dying from Global Warming
The Great Barrier Reef is not dead, is not dying and is not even on life support, federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley has declared after her first official visit to the World Heritage-listed site.
Marine scientist Peter Ridd has begun a speaking tour in Queensland calling for a new body to check the quality of reef research...In relation to bleaching and *climate change, he said it was not a new phenomenon: “It has been happening for millennia.” https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/...lobal-warming/
Strange coral spawning improving Great Barrier Reef's resilience
Date: August 6, 2019
Source: University of Queensland
Summary: A phenomenon that makes coral spawn more than once a year is improving the resilience of the Great Barrier Reef. The discovery was made by researchers investigating whether corals that split their spawning over multiple months are more successful at spreading their offspring across different reefs.
"While reproductive success during split spawning may be lower than usual because it can lead to reduced fertilisation, we found that the release of eggs in two separate smaller events gives the corals a second and improved chance of finding a new home reef."
The research team brought together multi-disciplinary skills in modelling, coral biology, ecology, and oceanography, simulating the dispersal of coral larvae during these split spawning events, among the more than 3800 reefs that make up the Great Barrier Reef. https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0806101528.htm
I was initially concerned about what the research project would find, but happy to hear divers had thought ‘the Reef was dead’ but after diving they were ‘amazed to see the Reef in such great condition.'” https://www.deeperblue.com/divers-pe...live-and-well/
Great Barrier Reef’s death ‘fake news’: tourism veteran
You will be pleasantly surprised about how alive the Great Barrier Reef really is, and its abundance of beautiful healthy corals, and massive schools of brightly coloured fish, https://www.couriermail.com.au/subsc...s&mode=premium
Surprise! The Great Barrier Reef is Not Dying from Global Warming
The Great Barrier Reef is not dead, is not dying and is not even on life support, federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley has declared after her first official visit to the World Heritage-listed site.
Marine scientist Peter Ridd has begun a speaking tour in Queensland calling for a new body to check the quality of reef research...In relation to bleaching and *climate change, he said it was not a new phenomenon: “It has been happening for millennia.” https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/...lobal-warming/
Strange coral spawning improving Great Barrier Reef's resilience
Date: August 6, 2019
Source: University of Queensland
Summary: A phenomenon that makes coral spawn more than once a year is improving the resilience of the Great Barrier Reef. The discovery was made by researchers investigating whether corals that split their spawning over multiple months are more successful at spreading their offspring across different reefs.
"While reproductive success during split spawning may be lower than usual because it can lead to reduced fertilisation, we found that the release of eggs in two separate smaller events gives the corals a second and improved chance of finding a new home reef."
The research team brought together multi-disciplinary skills in modelling, coral biology, ecology, and oceanography, simulating the dispersal of coral larvae during these split spawning events, among the more than 3800 reefs that make up the Great Barrier Reef. https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0806101528.htm
So far the only viable link you put was science daily. One was a conspiracy site(watts up with that) one didn't work(couriermail) and the rest seemed to be travel agencies that would lose sales if they didn't say reefs were thriving..
The climate hoax seems to be getting real desperate...sad they have to brainwash kids for this ......the funny thing is warmer climes are healthier for us.......cold weather ice ages bring on sickness and death, but of course Gore et al won't be telling anybody that.........people head for balmy warmer weather for a reason, the cold sucks......
The climate hoax seems to be getting real desperate...sad they have to brainwash kids for this ......the funny thing is warmer climes are healthier for us.......cold weather ice ages bring on sickness and death, but of course Gore et al won't be telling anybody that.........people head for balmy warmer weather for a reason, the cold sucks......
Ever heard if malaria, or other diseases brought by warm climates? Or even dormant diseases trapped in permafrost?
Uh, I live in Hawaii and loss of coral here is a big deal. To say it isn't happening, or that it is due to cold water is just pure lunacy. I see dead coral every time I go out in the ocean.
Uh, I live in Hawaii and loss of coral here is a big deal. To say it isn't happening, or that it is due to cold water is just pure lunacy. I see dead coral every time I go out in the ocean.
Years ago I honey mooned in Hawaii, and visited Hanauma Bay...Is it still healthy?
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