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Old 09-20-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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https://www.newser.com/article/24eaf...idens-son.html

This is an AP story. It must have been verified. The AP is conservative, and as near as I can tell, unbiased. Our president has tried to conspire with a foreign government to influence the next presidential election. Think about that. Try to wrap your head around it.

 
Old 09-20-2019, 04:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MrDann636 View Post
Well, Trump did say he would take help from a foreign government to get elected. “Why wouldn’t I take help.”
Yes he said that — from “Denmark” like Denmark would tell him anything after the Greenland debacle...
He didn’t tell George that he would coerce help from a foreign power... which is what this comes down too
Trump is not used to be denied what he wants
He gets compliance from his syncophants
He expected it from a “small, nothing of a country like Ukraine” (and that is Trump’s opinion I am sure)
He didn’t get it right away so he had to do some arm-twisting
Apparently he still didn’t get it even after sending Rudy G to make the negotiation
Guess Rudy G is no Tom Hogan...
Or there was no horse’s head to leave in the bed...
 
Old 09-20-2019, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
LOL!


Cuomo got beech slapped by Rudy over it.
Seems many people were listening to this conversation. Why just one person with a problem and is triggered????
So you think it was extortion, eh?
Sounds like a leaker, claiming whistle blower to save his ass!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EHQKL2wdo




Looks like Obama & Biden have some splain'n to do.
The mind blowing actions were reported here 8 months ago, from an INFOwars link, but just now, Rudy has forced CNN to cover it.
Cuomo, telling a story. Rudy, telling the story.
You sure you watched the video you posted, Giuliani claimed he didn't ask the president of Ukraine to investigate Biden, then he changed his mind. Giuliani looked foolish, he's not helping Trump.

Last edited by Goodnight; 09-20-2019 at 04:58 PM..
 
Old 09-20-2019, 04:49 PM
 
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So now we are going to put troops on the ground for Saudi Arabia and UAE—
People, I am telling you if the Senate doesn’t get p-o’ed over this, nothing will stir them to stand up to Trump

Do you want YOUR army to defend the same country that had 9/11 attackers flying those planes???
This stinks
And it will only get worse
 
Old 09-20-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If Trump knew these calls were being recorded why in the world would he do this? Something doesn’t add up.
And over a dozen people listening in. Why only one person triggered?
No one has questioned anyone else listening in? Why?
 
Old 09-20-2019, 04:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You sure you watched the video you posted, Giuliani claimed he didn't ask the president of Ukraine to interview to investigate Biden, then he changed his mind. Giuliani looked foolish, he's not helping Trump.
2 different things, were being discussed and Cuomo was conflating the two as the same thing.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
The problem with Trump is he isn't prudent.

I don't doubt that he may have been trying to impress someone or ingratiate himself with someone and then just blurted out something he may have been thinking but shouldn't have said. That is quite possible, other people do it.

On the other hand, he may have actually been unaware that he was being recorded. Some things surprise him and he doesn't have very good support inside the white house. They are short staffed and browbeaten and he doesn't listen to them. So it's quite possible ... no one told him, or worse ... he forgot and no one was there to remind him.
If you were an anti-Trump leaker in the Intel Community afraid that you are about to be exposed with a criminal investigation, might you not seek protection by calling yourself a "whistleblower"? LOL!
 
Old 09-20-2019, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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2 different things, were being discussed and Cuomo was conflating the two as the same thing.
Giuliani couldn't remember a statement he made 30 seconds earlier. Rather strange having the presidents lawyer or whatever he is being sent on a mission by Trump to pressure Ukraine.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by BELMO45 View Post
I’m sorry if you know all the calls are being monitored you don’t say what they’re claiming he did so chances are once again the liberals are exaggerating this story. Remember how many times already we’ve seen false news break only to find out hours later it’s been exaggerated or is completely fabricated
There would have been transcriptions of the calls. Why doesn't Trump simply release the trascriptions and prove once and for all he's on the up-and-up and innocent of all charges.

Never mind. I have a pretty good idea why this won't happen.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What tRump was attempting was extortion.

Extortion to make a foreign leader get involved in our elections.

Which is what he spent the past three years claiming he didn't do in 2016.

How much lawlessness will the Pub senate tolerate?

How much further into the slime will they allow the presidency to slide?

Their last prez (Dubya) was a failure, but even he is head and shoulders above tRump in terms of decorum and respect for the law. The GOP needs to have some soul searching on their way forward.

Because their path over the past two decades has been spiraling downward. Which is bad for our country, because America works best when both parties are healthy and able to offer up viable policy alternatives.

Let's hope Pubs regain their sanity.

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