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Old 03-14-2020, 11:08 AM
 
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All misinterpreted when transferred to English. When Mohammad wrote the Holy Quran he wrote it in Arabic, the only language it was intended to be read in.

So there are no translators in the world that can do it right?
And no interpreters in the world then, that "truly understand Arabic" during negotiations?

And no other non-Arabic muslims in the world that understand the book that they worship "correctly"?
Excuse me, but while it's correct that Arabic is a "true language of Islam," ( in a very intrinsic way,) to say that no one else can understand what's written in Koran because it's written in a certain language is misleading, to say the least.

Not only that, but Koran is written in a much more clear and direct manner than Bible, that leads to much more interpretations, whether it's "transferred to English" or any other language.
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Old 03-14-2020, 06:11 PM
 
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If you are familiar with Farsi I would suggest you a PDF books to find out more.
this PDF : https://kaffeketab.ir/downloads/down...d-kings-tabari
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Old 03-14-2020, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Fundamentalist Christians beat their children. The denomination I grew up in encouraged it, even to the point of bruising. There was a doctrine called "breaking the will of the child." Should that be legal?

Some years ago, I heard an old "church lady" spouting off about the need to indoctrinate young children. She said, "If you wait until they're teenagers to start pounding the Bible into their heads, it will be too late. By then, they will have started to think for themselves."
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Old 03-14-2020, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Not really, how can they practice their religion without abusing their wives and daughters
1.8 billion Muslims in the world. How many do you personally know?

For most of history females were considered Chattels, regardless of religion. You can be certain you are a decendent of a female who had no rights.

They still are in some cultures, not limited to some Muslim majority countries.

Women did not have the right to own property or vote in the US or employment opportunities, let alone equal pay for equal work.
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Old 03-15-2020, 12:46 AM
 
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Islam isn’t right about anything as far as I can tell.

Of course, that puts it in good company. Neither is any other religion IMO.
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Old 03-15-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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All misinterpreted when transferred to English. When Mohammad wrote the Holy Quran he wrote it in Arabic, the only language it was intended to be read in.
There are some authentic translations of Quran in many different languages, English being one of them.

You may want to read one of those from start to end to know the gist of the Quranic message towards YOU, AND ONLY THEN use this piece of information to get the better idea of the entire picture, "Muhammad, did not know how to read or write. He did NOT write the Quran"
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Old 03-16-2020, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Central Washington
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Just a little more than a hundred years ago, our American society repressed women in much the same way. I heard this firsthand from older women on both sides of my family, when I was a young boy.
A little over 100 years ago American society was not performing female genital mutilation. Nor was it stoning women to death for the "crime" of being raped.
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Old 03-16-2020, 08:12 AM
 
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That they may be ahead does not make them arrived. And there is a pretty big difference between lip service and reality.
Your insinuations that Islam and Christianity are comparable regarding its poor views and treatment of women is beyond gross ignorance, and is merely a confession of your own broad brush anti-religion mindset.

Right from the beginning, for starters, Christianity holds that a woman (Mary) gave birth to Jesus Christ, to wit there is no such comparable example of Islam affording such high status and reverence to a women. As for modern times, I have yet to run across a Christian pastor, reverend, or other members of the church offering instructions on the proper method for beating your wife, nor of any Christian scripture instructing the honor killing of daughters by their fathers should they be found in violation of its laws governing a female’s restricted behavior. I won’t even bother going further into the endless list of dramatic differences, as it would take many hours and many pages of text to do so.
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