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Old 09-20-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Um. Well, over the course of history they have certainly done worse.
That's called HISTORY.... Most religions learned from it and changed ....not ISLAM............
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:00 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Here in Portugal and Spain as well, domestic violence against women is rampant - and committed by Christian men.

Let's face it, all those Semitic religions are primitive crap and should finally be abandoned by modern humans.
Let's become atheists or at least pick more sophisticated religions, if people are not strong enough to be atheists, yet.
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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My theory is that liberals do know that Muslims treat women like garbage, how can they not? I am quite certain they don't like it or approve of it either. So why are they so defensive of Islam? Well a big part of being woke is to see whites, especially Christian white men, as the bad guy, as the root of all problems. So you have a couple of things conflicting with each other but in the end being against white Christians wins out. Liberals are pro-Islam by default, not because they agree with the Islamic agenda.
a rather astute observation..
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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Someone got friendzoned..
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:40 PM
 
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Here in Portugal and Spain as well, domestic violence against women is rampant - and committed by Christian men.

Let's face it, all those Semitic religions are primitive crap and should finally be abandoned by modern humans.
Let's become atheists or at least pick more sophisticated religions, if people are not strong enough to be atheists, yet.
Christians are the vast majority of Spain and Portugal so of course any behavior, good or bad, will be more common among Christians there.

Let's see what happens if Spanish women travel to an Islamic country and wear the same outfits they do at home. How would that go over? The fact is Muslims are obsessed with female modesty and will rape and kill in the name of it. Christian countries are far more advanced and civilized.
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Christians are the vast majority of Spain and Portugal so of course any behavior, good or bad, will be more common among Christians there.

Let's see what happens if Spanish women travel to an Islamic country and wear the same outfits they do at home. How would that go over? The fact is Muslims are obsessed with female modesty and will rape and kill in the name of it. Christian countries are far more advanced and civilized.
That's not correct. There are lots of western women traveling to gulf states such as Dubai. They are perfectly safe there.
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:59 PM
 
Location: London
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You can't be pro- any religion and also pro-gay or pro- women.

By the same logic.
Not pro-Abrahamic religion anyway. Although modern Judaism is much better with those things than the other 2 big religions.
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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Christians are the vast majority of Spain and Portugal so of course any behavior, good or bad, will be more common among Christians there.

Let's see what happens if Spanish women travel to an Islamic country and wear the same outfits they do at home. How would that go over? The fact is Muslims are obsessed with female modesty and will rape and kill in the name of it. Christian countries are far more advanced and civilized.
Your average Muslim and average Christian in a given country aren't all that different in beliefs or practice.

Problem with those countries is the lack of a separation of church and state and dictators/theocracies abusing the religion to subdue the people. The rich and powerful in those countries get up to the same depravity as any other.

The enemy is those that want religion tied up in government. Regardless of what religion they pretend to follow. Those Islamic countries have just been more effective at suppressing dissent and their age of enlightenment. Often with our help. There are a disturbing number of people here that would like to turn us into a theocracy as well.
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Not pro-Abrahamic religion anyway. Although modern Judaism is much better with those things than the other 2 big religions.
Because many modern Jews tend to be pretty agnostic, some even atheist.
Same with Christians, at least in Europe.
Interestingly, many of those people who beat their wives to death here in Europe are religious and say things like that their marriage vow before god says until death do them part, so when their wives want to get divorced...
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:39 PM
 
Location: London
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Not really, how can they practice their religion without abusing their wives and daughters
I could not possibly disagree with any religion more than Islam. But what you're saying is nonsense. It's possible to believe in Islam - and even see women as inferior - without outright abusing them.
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