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I know of a situation where a gay person was 100% incompetent. But this person was very vocal about being gay, so the company just suffered along until he quit. They knew that if they fired him, they would be facing a lawsuit. It was cheaper to do nothing until he left.
His coworkers had to do HIS job until he left.
If a company wants someone gone...they can find SOME reason to fire them, this is exactly what my old district mgr did when I managed a chain pizza place, he was racist as could be and would not hire any black people for any of his stores, but when they would go to interviews with him, he would just put down something else as the reason why they should not be hired...even though that was not the real reason...same thing with a gay person, companies/managers can say one thing and do another, they do not have to answer to anyone for why they fire someone and even if they did, they could just give a generic reason.
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In at-will states, you can terminate someone for no reason at all, but you still need to document specific instances of below average performance or insubordination to protect the company in the event of a lawsuit.
I don't see this becoming a big issue for gay people. Hiring managers may pass on hiring someone who is more obviously gay in the first place (which can't be proven), and if the employee is inherited by a new manager, most will only care about performance. I see this as potentially being a bigger problem for people who were hired as one gender, and later deciding they want to be the other gender.
I think that this story has more to it than meets the eye. I doubt someone was fired just because they were gay. I think this person did something and used their sexual orientation as an excuse and of course it plays on the emotions of many people and they buy it Hook Line & Sinker.
Otherwise, as long as the person is discrete about their sexuality, which is appropriate in a work environment irregardless, how would management know?
At will employment, you can leave at your will and employer can fire for almost any reason (or none at all). I prefer to leave it that way. I'm actually supporter for LGBTQ rights but pushing for this will most likely have unintended consequences towards business rights.
Because such conservatives are gay themselves. Straight conservatives likely don't care one way or the other.
So everyone who is "obsessed" with something is that very thing themself?
Does that also apply to people who collect ... let's see coins? Are they coins? Are people who are obsessed with football, well, footballs? Are people who are obsessed with surfing ... surf boards?
Are people who are obsessed with arguing ... arguments?
Interesting theory that makes no sense.
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Yes, because we're always hearing about gays who can't find work because they're gay.
Even in small towns my gay friends have been offered jobs and told they should move there because they'd love the slower life than Chicago affords.
I was fired for being gay back in 2009. It was from a job with the state as well, not a private employer. It really all depends on the employer and the manager. Even if it was against the law to fire somebody for being gay, a virulently homophobic boss would likely find any reason they could to get rid of a gay employee.
The real issue is that these laws tell an owner of a business who they must associate with and for what reasons they can terminate an employee. Sound like attributes of a free society?
I was fired for being gay back in 2009. It was from a job with the state as well, not a private employer. It really all depends on the employer and the manager. Even if it was against the law to fire somebody for being gay, a virulently homophobic boss would likely find any reason they could to get rid of a gay employee.
And I was hired once because they thought I was XYZ religion. I wasn't. Uncomfortable conversations later when they realized I wasn't.
Crap happens.
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