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Old 10-02-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Perfect example of just how low IQ Trump's base it...

Last week, Donald Trump LITERALLY said he brought up Biden on the phone call with the Ukrainian president to discuss corruption.....yet 6 in 10 Trumpers don't believe Trump brought up Biden on the phone call with the Ukrainian president.

What the ****???


https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/...55985212792834

 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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The Articles of impeachment were then referred to the Senate for disposition. The case was tried, and Bill Clinton was acquitted.

Maybe Trump will get that lucky, huh...?
Lucky? It’s guaranteed
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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Was trump having sex with Stormy again, or was it some other porn star/model?


Actually it was john edwards while his wife was on her death bed....
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:31 AM
 
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Perfect example of just how low IQ Trump's base it...

Last week, Donald Trump LITERALLY said he brought up Biden on the phone call with the Ukrainian president to discuss corruption.....yet 6 in 10 Trumpers don't believe Trump brought up Biden on the phone call with the Ukrainian president.

What the ****???


https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/...55985212792834
Well, you can’t fix stupid.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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But first it has to be established if the whistle blower had the ability to do what was done, and how it was done.
This is a phone call in the White House by POTUS. There are rules, regulations regarding many of the contributing circumstances.

When an opposing Party on record, from Day One of the Presidency starts using any and all means possible to undo the results of a free and fair election, and after they come up empty time and time again, putting the American public through the wringer for almost 3 years , what do you call it ?

The brilliance of the Framers has been in full view, and it will continue. They knew this was likely to happen, and they put in all the stops necessary. But Dems need to bend the rules, cloaked in secrecy , avoid precedent by not having a floor vote. Their march continues, this is just a different version of the drum beat.

The Democrat now in charge lied overand over in public, to the American people, that there was " evidence in plain sight"
Where is it Adam ? We are still waiting.
And he is to be trusted holding " secret" testimony ?
Why? The ID of the whistleblower has absolutely no impact on what the facts support.

If it is all a pile of hooey, Trump could have easily refuted the allegatons by producing facts to support his argument. Instead, he immediately went into stonewall mode, and started screamin about everyone not involved in the complaint.

Not at all what anyone would expect the reaction to be from an innocent man. Trumps' rebuttal is an instant replay of Richard Nixon's attempted smokescreen in 1974.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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Why? The ID of the whistleblower has absolutely no impact on what the facts support.

If it is all a pile of hooey, Trump could have easily refuted the allegatons by producing facts to support his argument. Instead, he immediately went into stonewall mode, and started screamin about everyone not involved in the complaint.

Not at all what anyone would expect the reaction to be from an innocent man. Trumps' rebuttal is an instant replay of Richard Nixon's attempted smokescreen in 1974.
in Nixon's case there was a crime. The break in of the Watergate hotel


there is no crime here. lol
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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in Nixon's case there was a crime. The break in of the Watergate hotel

there is no crime here. lol
The articles for impeachment against Nixon were: obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress.

Not the break-in. The cover-up. How he conducted himself as POTUS.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:50 AM
 
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The articles for impeachment against Nixon were: obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress.

Not the break-in. The cover-up. How he conducted himself as POTUS.
releasing transcripts is a cover up? LOL
 
Old 10-02-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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releasing transcripts is a cover up? LOL
The cover-up applied to Nixon. TBD whether it becomes an issue here.

What's common is whether Trump actions in his role as POTUS meet the standard of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

Again, TBD.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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Nixon's crime was a covsr up and obstruction. He fired folks/ordered the firing of folks. Almost like the Comey case. Learn the history of Watergate and Nixon's resignation before spouting off like you know anything.
Take abuse of power (one of the articles cited for Nixon): Abuse of power can mean a person using the power they have for their own personal gain.

In the view of many (starting with the whistleblower) Trump demonstrated "abuse of power" in that Zelensky telephone call that he still maintains was "perfect."

Let's see what Congress says.
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