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Old 09-26-2019, 05:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
when our government sets a precedent ...then the what a bouts are valid

yes there was collusion.... with Russia and china....by the Clintons, and Obama.........and with Ukraine by obama


yes there was obstruction....by comey, lynch an the Clintons


yes there was more obstruction... by the democrats and the media




funny how the America hating liberals will never admit it

the fascist liberals should be warned to tread very carefully in this...as they may open up a can of worms on themselves


you say you want a honest debate... mention "business dealing of trump with Russia...


but as soon as someone shows the facts that hitlery/Obama had many of the same dealing..you dismiss it


lets look at the claimed money laundering the dims say about trump...but FAIL to look in the mirror


even though there is tones of evidence that all the money laundering was done by the Clintons


hmm so-called alleged money laundering...

many connections to Obama and the clintons

the same Russian Investment Fund leader (Russian mafia) who met Trump has had dealings with, has met with bill and Hillary, and paid bill's speaking fee

the same Erik Prince (Blackwater) who got his first contracts under..bill Clinton

the same Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi who met with Bill Clinton

the same Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi who gave a million dollars to help fund the Clinton Presidential Library

the same George Nader , a Lebanese-American businessman, who was a negotiator with Syria during the Clinton administration, for the Israel-Syria talks...the same Nader who acted in president Obama's behalf for his foreign policy team...under SoS Hillary Clinton




the same oligarch paid Clinton millions










from 2015

Democrats and the left didn't just collude with Russia and Ukraine ; they embraced them, and show no shame in having done so.
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...rump-campaign/


Let's get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...n-us-elections


https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...mueller-probe/





Americans stop short when it comes to providing military aid and equipment to Ukraine. Just 26 percent think the U.S. should do so in response to Russia's actions, and far more - 65 percent - think the U.S. should not, including majorities of Republicans (59 percent), Democrats (67 percent), and independents (69 percent).
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/america...kraine-crisis/
Please show the proof of your allegations about all this collusion and corruption about the people you talk about. I want to see the information on whatever agency investigated them and provided a report about their collusion. BTW, some of your "proof" is opinion pieces. Nice try though.

 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
You can believe if whatever Obama did was impeachable McConnell would have been all over it.
what trump did or didn't, is not impeachable if they (either party) looked the other way when Obama did the very same thing.... a precedent was set
 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:46 PM
 
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what trump did or didn't, is not impeachable if they (either party) looked the other way when Obama did the very same thing.... a precedent was set
Actually no. Did Obama ask a foreign government for dirt on McCain or Romney? I don't think I read about that anywhere.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
Actually no. Did Obama ask a foreign government for dirt on McCain or Romney? I don't think I read about that anywhere.
You will get no response because they have no proof.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
What illegal acts, we don't want your opinion....we want you to back up your what you say with illegal act laws....we don't want a link to cnn...msnbc....cbs...maddow....
Once again, it is unlawful to request assistance from any foreign national with respect to a political campaign.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by atltechdude View Post
Once again, it is unlawful to request assistance from any foreign national with respect to a political campaign.

Oh, you mean like what Hillary's campaign did with Fusion GPS and the RUSSIAN dossier?
 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
You will get no response because they have no proof.
Of course they don't. They just fling crap out there, no matter how fallacious.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
when our government sets a precedent ...then the what a bouts are valid

yes there was collusion.... with Russia and china....by the Clintons, and Obama.........and with Ukraine by obama


yes there was obstruction....by comey, lynch an the Clintons


yes there was more obstruction... by the democrats and the media




funny how the America hating liberals will never admit it

the fascist liberals should be warned to tread very carefully in this...as they may open up a can of worms on themselves


you say you want a honest debate... mention "business dealing of trump with Russia...


but as soon as someone shows the facts that hitlery/Obama had many of the same dealing..you dismiss it


lets look at the claimed money laundering the dims say about trump...but FAIL to look in the mirror


even though there is tones of evidence that all the money laundering was done by the Clintons


hmm so-called alleged money laundering...

many connections to Obama and the clintons

the same Russian Investment Fund leader (Russian mafia) who met Trump has had dealings with, has met with bill and Hillary, and paid bill's speaking fee

the same Erik Prince (Blackwater) who got his first contracts under..bill Clinton

the same Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi who met with Bill Clinton

the same Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi who gave a million dollars to help fund the Clinton Presidential Library

the same George Nader , a Lebanese-American businessman, who was a negotiator with Syria during the Clinton administration, for the Israel-Syria talks...the same Nader who acted in president Obama's behalf for his foreign policy team...under SoS Hillary Clinton




the same oligarch paid Clinton millions











from 2015

Democrats and the left didn't just collude with Russia and Ukraine ; they embraced them, and show no shame in having done so.
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...rump-campaign/


Let's get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...n-us-elections


https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...mueller-probe/





Americans stop short when it comes to providing military aid and equipment to Ukraine. Just 26 percent think the U.S. should do so in response to Russia's actions, and far more - 65 percent - think the U.S. should not, including majorities of Republicans (59 percent), Democrats (67 percent), and independents (69 percent).
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/america...kraine-crisis/
Awfully long answer, you said Obama did the same do you have something specific.


Short answer please.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
Actually no. Did Obama ask a foreign government for dirt on McCain or Romney? I don't think I read about that anywhere.
obozo asked for dirt on trump and Manafort to have Ukraine interfere with the 2016 election


Quote:
The Murphy anecdote is a powerful reminder that, since at least 2016, Democrats repeatedly have exerted pressure on Ukraine, a key U.S. ally for buffering Russia, to meddle in U.S. politics and elections.
And that activity long preceded Giuliani’s discussions with Ukrainian officials and Trump’s phone call to Zelensky in July, seeking to have Ukraine formally investigate whether then-Vice President Joe Biden used a threat of canceling foreign aid to shut down an investigation into $3 million routed to the U.S. firm run by Biden’s son.
As I have reported, the pressure began at least as early as January 2016, when the Obama White House unexpectedly invited Ukraine’s top prosecutors to Washington to discuss fighting corruption in the country.
The meeting, promised as training, turned out to be more of a pretext for the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine’s prosecutors to drop an investigation into the Burisma Holdings gas company that employed Hunter Biden and to look for new evidence in a then-dormant criminal case against eventual Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a GOP lobbyist.

U.S. officials “kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united,” said Andrii Telizhenko, the former political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington who organized and attended the meetings.
Nazar Kholodnytsky, Ukraine’s chief anti-corruption prosecutor, told me that, soon after he returned from the Washington meeting, he saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S. election. That's when two top Ukrainian officials released secret evidence to the American media, smearing Manafort.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...n-us-elections
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ssia-collusion



Obama/biden/Kerry/Clinton are up to their necks in this....and you deflect
 
Old 09-26-2019, 06:40 PM
 
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Trump on transcript saying to Zelenskly "I would like for you to do us a favor" and prodding him to work with Barr/Giuliani while withholding approved military funds by congress!? Looks very bad!
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