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View Poll Results: What do you think about the whistleblower? Something, or nothing?
Just another nothing-burger 114 61.96%
Trump's in deep trouble this time 70 38.04%
Voters: 184. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-27-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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Breaking: The White House admitted the Ukraine call was moved to a secret server. Kind of odd for a call that wasn't considered classified

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rce=reddit.com
Trump's conversations with the Australian and Mexican leaders were leaked, so going the extra mile to conceal and secure such conversations is not odd anymore.
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Old 09-27-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Breaking: The White House admitted the Ukraine call was moved to a secret server. Kind of odd for a call that wasn't considered classified

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rce=reddit.com
It won't matter to his supporters. When they can't see anything wrong when he admits wrongdoing out of his own mouth, there is no hope for them.
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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Funny you should ask this question. That is the exact way I learned about hearsay being not admissible in court. I went to the police with some information about a crime that I had heard from someone else. I was told that they wouldn't and couldn't do anything about it because I did not witness anything myself.
The IG corroborated his complaint with other witnesses. Hopefully the House Intel will get a chance to talk to them. That is if they aren't scared off by Trump's mafia tactics.
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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It won't matter to his supporters. When they can't see anything wrong when he admits wrongdoing out of his own mouth, there is no hope for them.
Well, Trump has been cleared of any wrongdoing-
https://i.imgur.com/oURSu3R.jpg
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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It's not a giant nothing The WH has admitted that they moved the transcript to a secured server, which further corroborates the complaint.
It corroborates the complaint? What? Who cares?

The complaint didn't allege any wrongdoing!
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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So because the transcript was moved, it means the whistleblower is right about everything?
No person with a brain would agree with that 'logic'.
In fact haven't they already been proven wrong regarding who was listening to the call?
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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Breaking: The White House admitted the Ukraine call was moved to a secret server. Kind of odd for a call that wasn't considered classified

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rce=reddit.com
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So because the transcript was moved, it means the whistleblower is right about everything?
No person with a brain would agree with that 'logic'.
In fact haven't they already been proven wrong regarding who was listening to the call?
It means the whistleblower has credibility and, surprise, surprise, Trump is a liar!
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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It means the whistleblower has credibility and, surprise, surprise, Trump is a liar!
It means the whistleblower got something right, and that applies to many of the leaks that end up in the media, often they get something right and something wrong.
That's the way 2nd or 3rd-hand information works, the truth is diluted.
The bottom line remains, you need first-hand evidence of a quid pro quo.
Anything short of that, and you lose.
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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It means the whistleblower got something right, and that applies to many of the leaks that end up in the media, often they get something right and something wrong.
That's the way 2nd or 3rd-hand information works, the truth is diluted.
The bottom line remains, you need first-hand evidence of a quid pro quo.
What for? Quid pro quos are commonplace in foreign policy. There's nothing wrong with them.
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Old 09-29-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I've seen claims that Biden's company had been under investigation but no longer was at the time of the strong-arm tactics. So, I don't know for sure, and I guess Trump doesn't, either, which is the point of investigating rather than just declaring Biden a crook as all the Dems do to Trump constantly. It's all much moire measured and reasonable than this insane conspiracy to impeach Trump over something that is . . . measured and reasonable and calculated to serve the interests of the American people.

Blue Star Strategies was the firm hired by Hunter Biden's company, Burisma. The day after Biden had the original prosecutor fired, the lawyers from Blue Star Strategies met with the new prosecutor, because the case was still ongoing.

It's not just Biden's shady dealing with the Ukraine that made his son filthy rich, it was also the sweet million dollar deals Biden got his son with the Chinese government.

These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story
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