Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-27-2019, 02:42 PM
 
17,581 posts, read 13,355,792 times
Reputation: 33014

Advertisements

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...#ixzz60GrtuRLc



Quote:
The Obama administration had no problems with OOCL signing a 40-year lease with the City of Long Beach in 2012 for control of America's second largest and most automated container handling operation. The sweetheart deal was part of the "Middle Harbor Redevelopment Program" to fund a $1.5-billion expansion through 2020.
But one of the first major actions of the Trump administration's Department of Homeland Security in March 2017 was issuing a "Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S." national security hold on Cosco's acquisition of a former U.S. Navy port facility.

Cosco Shipping Units to Sell U.S. Long Beach Container Terminal for $1.78 Billion

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cosco-s...on-11556595995

Quote:
The sale by the unit of China-based Cosco Shipping Holdings Co. is being undertaken pursuant to the National Security Agreement entered into by Orient Overseas, fellow Cosco Shipping unit Faulkner Global Holdings Ltd., the U.S. Homeland Security Department and the U.S. Justice Department last July. Under that agreement, Orient Overseas had committed to divest itself of ownership of the Long Beach Container Terminal business.
As part of the sale, Orient Overseas Container Line Ltd., a unit of Orient Overseas, will enter into a 20-year Container Stevedoring and Terminal Services Agreement with LBCT LLC, which operates the Long Beach Container Terminal. The completion of the sale will be subject to approvals from the relevant regulatory authorities and other customary conditions, Orient Overseas said.




It was a terrible deal to begin with.



Calling President Trump a traitor after what obuma/biden did is total bullcrap. oubma and hands on biden need to be investigated along with killery



MAGA!!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:00 PM
 
17,304 posts, read 12,251,233 times
Reputation: 17261
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike1003 View Post
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...#ixzz60GrtuRLc






Cosco Shipping Units to Sell U.S. Long Beach Container Terminal for $1.78 Billion

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cosco-s...on-11556595995







It was a terrible deal to begin with.



Calling President Trump a traitor after what obuma/biden did is total bullcrap. oubma and hands on biden need to be investigated along with killery



MAGA!!!!
Obama didn't lease it. Did he have any involvement whatsoever?

Yay for government intervention in business transactions? Such a conservative ideal.

But in any case regarding investigations...
https://i.imgur.com/DBcUtoo.png
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
15,507 posts, read 6,432,565 times
Reputation: 4831
Quote:
Originally Posted by notnamed View Post
Obama didn't lease it. Did he have any involvement whatsoever?

Yay for government intervention in business transactions? Such a conservative ideal.

But in any case regarding investigations...
https://i.imgur.com/DBcUtoo.png
Friend, the government overseas all international trade and corporate transactions, the government is the reason they exist.

Obama's inaction is his approval.

And since when did liberals become so pro-private business? Trump isn't a conservative, he is a populist.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:28 PM
 
17,304 posts, read 12,251,233 times
Reputation: 17261
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
Friend, the government overseas all international trade and corporate transactions, the government is the reason they exist.

Obama's inaction is his approval.

And since when did liberals become so pro-private business? Trump isn't a conservative, he is a populist.
I'm not a liberal, but call me a never-Trumper if that makes you happy. Trump is...everything and anything, but a NYC liberal at heart.

What specific security concerns? Cosco owns other U.S. ports, why aren't they included as well if it is a security concern?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:28 PM
 
46,952 posts, read 25,990,037 times
Reputation: 29442
I always enjoy American Thinker citations, they're great for a game of "spot the half-truths".

It's not "the Port of Long Beach" although that sure sounds great, it's one of six container terminals in Long Beach. Also, it was a lease, nothing was actually sold. I know, details.

OOCL has operated terminals in Long Beach for decades before 2012. And OOCL could have happily carried on operating, because they're they're not Chinese, they're based in Hong Kong. (Yes, there's a difference.)

However, the larger shipping conglomerate Cosco - who are Chinese - wanted to take on a controlling role on OOCL. And, in order to do so, divested itself of the terminal.

In other words, the 2012 deal was a continuation of a long-existing business relationship, done with a non-Chinese company and would have been perfectly legal within the new set of Trump regulations, if not for the take-over of OOCL. And no US president was involved in the transaction.

Not sure why anyone would call it a "terrible deal", seemed like both parties were happy - but I guess that's subjective.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
17,795 posts, read 13,692,692 times
Reputation: 17829
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
I always enjoy American Thinker citations, they're great for a game of "spot the half-truths".

It's not "the Port of Long Beach" although that sure sounds great, it's one of six container terminals in Long Beach.

OOCL has operated terminals in Long Beach for decades before 2012. And OOCL could have happily carried on operating, because they're they're not Chinese, they're based in Hong Kong. (Yes, there's a difference.)

However, the larger shipping conglomerate Cosco - who are Chinese - wanted to take on a controlling role on OOCL. And, in order to do so, divested itself of the terminal.

In other words, the 2012 deal was a continuation of a long-existing business relationship, done with a non-Chinese company and would have been perfectly legal within the new set of Trump regulations, if not for the take-over of OOCL. And no US president was involved in the transaction.

Not sure why anyone would call it a "terrible deal", seemed like both parties were happy - but I guess that's subjective.
It is apparently too complicated a thing for a Trump supporter to comprehend. Much easier to blame Obama for not seeing what was going to transpire after he continued the previous agreement.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:34 PM
 
46,952 posts, read 25,990,037 times
Reputation: 29442
Quote:
Originally Posted by notnamed View Post
Obama didn't lease it. Did he have any involvement whatsoever?
Nope.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:34 PM
 
17,304 posts, read 12,251,233 times
Reputation: 17261
Yeah it seems to just be another case of undoing anything Obama was involved in...and his involvement in this is remote at best.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:34 PM
 
10,275 posts, read 10,340,269 times
Reputation: 10644
Um, China doesn't own that port. And Presidents have nothing to do with foreign companies leasing in the U.S. Essentially nothing in that article is accurate.

Do i need to explain? Probably doesn't matter.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2019, 03:55 PM
 
46,952 posts, read 25,990,037 times
Reputation: 29442
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
Um, China doesn't own that port. And Presidents have nothing to do with foreign companies leasing in the U.S. Essentially nothing in that article is accurate.

Do i need to explain? Probably doesn't matter.
Again, I wonder if the OP intentionally put a whopper in the headline and is hoping for rebuttal posts to keep the agitprop at the top of the forum. In which case, well played.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top