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Old 09-30-2019, 06:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MassTerp94 View Post
I think there are going to be a few surprises.

Alexander (R-TN) Guilty
Baldwin (D-WI) Guilty
Barrasso (R-WY) Not guilty
Bennet (D-CO) Guilty
Blackburn (R-TN) Not guilty
Blumenthal (D-CT) Guilty
Blunt (R-MO) Not guilty
Booker (D-NJ) Guilty
Boozman (R-AR) Not guilty
Braun (R-IN) Not guilty
Brown (D-OH) Guilty
Burr (R-NC) Not guilty
Cantwell (D-WA) Guilty
Capito (R-WV) Not guilty
Cardin (D-MD) Guilty
Carper (D-DE) Guilty
Casey (D-PA) Guilty
Cassidy (R-LA) Not guilty
Collins (R-ME) Guilty
Coons (D-DE) Guilty
Cornyn (R-TX) Not guilty
Cortez-Masto (D-NV) Guilty
Cotton (R-AR) Not guilty
Cramer (R-ND) Not guilty
Crapo (R-ID) Not guilty
Cruz (R-TX) Guilty
Daines (R-MT) Not guilty
Duckworth (D-IL) Guilty
Durbin (D-IL) Guilty
Enzi (R-WY) Not guilty
Ernst (R-IA) Guilty
Feinstein (D-CA) Guilty
Fischer (R-NE) Not guilty
Gardner (R-CO) Guilty
Gillibrand (D-NY) Guilty
Graham (R-SC) Not guilty
Grassley (R-IA) Guilty
Harris (D-CA) Guilty
Hassan (D-NH) Guilty
Hawley (R-MO) Not guilty
Heinrich (D-NM) Guilty
Hirono (D-HI) Guilty
Hoeven (R-ND) Not guilty
Hyde-Smith (R-MS) Not guilty
Inhofe (R-OK) Not guilty
Isakson (R-GA) Guilty
Johnson (R-WI) Guilty
Jones (D-AL) Guilty
Kaine (D-WV) Guilty
Kennedy (R-LA) Not guilty
King (I-ME) Guilty
Klobuchar (D-MN) Guilty
Lankford (R-OK) Not guilty
Leahy (D-VT) Guilty
Lee (R-UT) Guilty
Manchin (D-WV) Not guilty
Markey (D-MA) Guilty
McConnell (R-KY) Not guilty
McSally (R-AZ) Guilty
Menendez (D-NJ) Guilty
Merkley (D-OR) Guilty
Moran (R-KS) Not guilty
Murkowski (R-AK) Guilty
Murphy (D-CT) Guilty
Murray (D-WA) Guilty
Paul (R-KY) Guilty
Perdue (R-GA) Not guilty
Peters (D-MI) Guilty
Portman (R-OH) Guilty
Reed (D-RI) Guilty
Risch (R-ID) Not guilty
Roberts (R-KS) Not guilty
Romney (R-UT) Guilty
Rosen (D-NV) Guilty
Rounds (R-SD) Not guilty
Rubio (R-FL) Guilty
Sanders (I-VT) Guilty
Sasse (R-NE) Guilty
Schatz (D-HI) Guilty
Schumer (D-NY) Guilty
Scott, R. (R-FL) Not guilty
Scott, T. (R-SC) Not guilty
Shaheen (D-NH) Guilty
Shelby (R-AL) Not guilty
Sinema (D-AZ) Guilty
Smith (D-MN) Guilty
Stabenow (D-MI) Guilty
Sullivan (R-AK) Not guilty
Tester (D-MT) Guilty
Thune (R-SD) Guilty
Tillis (R-NC) Guilty
Toomey (R-PA) Guilty
Udall (D-NM) Guilty
Van Hollen (D-MD) Guilty
Warner (D-VA) Guilty
Warren (D-MA) Guilty
Whitehouse (D-RI) Guilty
Wicker (R-MS) Not guilty
Wyden (D-OR) Guilty
Young (R-IN) Not guilty

GUILTY: 63
NOT GUILTY: 37

ACQUITTAL.
You either cut\pasted that and made some minor changes....or have wayyyy too much time on your hands for something that isn't even on the radar yet.

 
Old 09-30-2019, 07:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by maf763 View Post
My prediction is that if the House votes to impeach, which is likely, McConnell won't hold the trial in the Senate. That would protect Senate republicans from either being on record condoning Trump's actions or attacks from the right if they vote guilty.

McConnell is on record (March 2019) saying the Senate must hold trial if the house impeaches.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ach/ar-AAI1Bfs


...he said in a March interview that if impeachment were to happen, “the Senate has no choice. If the House were to act, the Senate immediately goes into a trial.”
 
Old 09-30-2019, 08:21 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by sware2cod View Post
McConnell is on record (March 2019) saying the Senate must hold trial if the house impeaches.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ach/ar-AAI1Bfs


...he said in a March interview that if impeachment were to happen, “the Senate has no choice. If the House were to act, the Senate immediately goes into a trial.”
And in that case I can see where it would turn to a Trump advantage as flimsy "evidence", which is really just an accusation, is voted on and rapidly dismissed.
Some of the OP's "Guilty" assignments are actually based on comments that impeachment charges should be heard. Like Lamar Alexander - that's what he said.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MassTerp94 View Post
I think there are going to be a few surprises.

Alexander (R-TN) Guilty
Baldwin (D-WI) Guilty
Barrasso (R-WY) Not guilty
Bennet (D-CO) Guilty
Blackburn (R-TN) Not guilty
Blumenthal (D-CT) Guilty
Blunt (R-MO) Not guilty
Booker (D-NJ) Guilty
Boozman (R-AR) Not guilty
Braun (R-IN) Not guilty
Brown (D-OH) Guilty
Burr (R-NC) Not guilty
Cantwell (D-WA) Guilty
Capito (R-WV) Not guilty
Cardin (D-MD) Guilty
Carper (D-DE) Guilty
Casey (D-PA) Guilty
Cassidy (R-LA) Not guilty
Collins (R-ME) Guilty
Coons (D-DE) Guilty
Cornyn (R-TX) Not guilty
Cortez-Masto (D-NV) Guilty
Cotton (R-AR) Not guilty
Cramer (R-ND) Not guilty
Crapo (R-ID) Not guilty
Cruz (R-TX) Guilty
Daines (R-MT) Not guilty
Duckworth (D-IL) Guilty
Durbin (D-IL) Guilty
Enzi (R-WY) Not guilty
Ernst (R-IA) Guilty
Feinstein (D-CA) Guilty
Fischer (R-NE) Not guilty
Gardner (R-CO) Guilty
Gillibrand (D-NY) Guilty
Graham (R-SC) Not guilty
Grassley (R-IA) Guilty
Harris (D-CA) Guilty
Hassan (D-NH) Guilty
Hawley (R-MO) Not guilty
Heinrich (D-NM) Guilty
Hirono (D-HI) Guilty
Hoeven (R-ND) Not guilty
Hyde-Smith (R-MS) Not guilty
Inhofe (R-OK) Not guilty
Isakson (R-GA) Guilty
Johnson (R-WI) Guilty
Jones (D-AL) Guilty
Kaine (D-WV) Guilty
Kennedy (R-LA) Not guilty
King (I-ME) Guilty
Klobuchar (D-MN) Guilty
Lankford (R-OK) Not guilty
Leahy (D-VT) Guilty
Lee (R-UT) Guilty
Manchin (D-WV) Not guilty
Markey (D-MA) Guilty
McConnell (R-KY) Not guilty
McSally (R-AZ) Guilty
Menendez (D-NJ) Guilty
Merkley (D-OR) Guilty
Moran (R-KS) Not guilty
Murkowski (R-AK) Guilty
Murphy (D-CT) Guilty
Murray (D-WA) Guilty
Paul (R-KY) Guilty
Perdue (R-GA) Not guilty
Peters (D-MI) Guilty
Portman (R-OH) Guilty
Reed (D-RI) Guilty
Risch (R-ID) Not guilty
Roberts (R-KS) Not guilty
Romney (R-UT) Guilty
Rosen (D-NV) Guilty
Rounds (R-SD) Not guilty
Rubio (R-FL) Guilty
Sanders (I-VT) Guilty
Sasse (R-NE) Guilty
Schatz (D-HI) Guilty
Schumer (D-NY) Guilty
Scott, R. (R-FL) Not guilty
Scott, T. (R-SC) Not guilty
Shaheen (D-NH) Guilty
Shelby (R-AL) Not guilty
Sinema (D-AZ) Guilty
Smith (D-MN) Guilty
Stabenow (D-MI) Guilty
Sullivan (R-AK) Not guilty
Tester (D-MT) Guilty
Thune (R-SD) Guilty
Tillis (R-NC) Guilty
Toomey (R-PA) Guilty
Udall (D-NM) Guilty
Van Hollen (D-MD) Guilty
Warner (D-VA) Guilty
Warren (D-MA) Guilty
Whitehouse (D-RI) Guilty
Wicker (R-MS) Not guilty
Wyden (D-OR) Guilty
Young (R-IN) Not guilty

GUILTY: 63
NOT GUILTY: 37

ACQUITTAL.
IMO, it will NEVER come to a vote.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
Yeah.
#1 There won't be.
#2 What kind of lawmaker announces his decision before hearing the evidence?
" What kind of lawmaker announces his decision before hearing the evidence?"


Ask the dems, they have been doing it a lot for a while.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Prediction: Senate Impeachment Vote

If it goes to the senate:

To convict:

47 yea
53 nay

Not hard to predict.

 
Old 09-30-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by cachibatches View Post
Repped for very thorough knowledge, though I don't think it is going to happen.

I think they would pick up Romney, Murkowski, and maybe Collins.

It won't happen because they would need overwhelming evidence to make the majority of Republicans fear for their spots, and they just don't have it.

A) The transcript has been released and shows no quid pro quo
B) The Ukrianian President is on record saying that there was not coercion.
C) The Trump team has a well developed counter narrative, with Guiliani claiming to have a statement from the prosecutor saying that he WAS fired for investigating Hunter Biden.
D) It looks too much like Russia, and Trump's people (of which I am marginally one) will not believe it even if it were true.
Sure, you want the president of the Ukraine to actually tell you what godfather donnie meant when he said "we want you to do us a favor..."?...lol, hilarious.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
If it goes to the senate:

To convict:

47 yea
53 nay

Not hard to predict.

My prediction is close to the opposite what you have.

I don't see it happening. Not enough Republicans are going to go with it but some will cross over and vote yes. Hopefully at least some of the no voters will lose their jobs when they are up for re-election.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Sure, you want the president of the Ukraine to actually tell you what godfather donnie meant when he said "we want you to do us a favor..."?...lol, hilarious.
by this type of thinking you can convict anyone of any crime. It's a shame you and so many others don't understand that. You would be cheering Joe MCcarthy on during his investigation and Burning Witches in Salem centuries ago. Hey sure i can't prove they are a Commie or a Witch but I just know it. Black list them and burn them at the stake.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 11:40 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Not so sure the Dem Senator from Montana is up for a Kamikaze run against Trump. Montana likes Trump.
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