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Old 09-30-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Maybe I can now go back to eBay and sell without my hi end hand made products being buried by 10000 items of junk.

The American consumer has already been bled to death, so it's a little late for that.


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First the tariff tax on US consumers...

Now we’ll be paying more for shipping...

On a roll of increasing our costs.

Tariffs have existed in the USA since the USA become a country. It's a little late for you to whine about them, and if they are such a problem, folks are free to leave. American consumers are the fattest on the planet. No one, anywhere, needs to shed a tear, or feel sorry for them.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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So you prefer to give a foreign communist country with humanitarian issues a better deal than what actual Americans within the US can get?
You have to remember-liberals are for improving the lot of anyone on earth-EXCEPT AMERICAN citizens. When you look at their actions with that in mind, they actually make sense.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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You have to remember-liberals are for improving the lot of anyone on earth-EXCEPT AMERICAN citizens. When you look at their actions with that in mind, they actually make sense.

Lefties want China (or any communist country) to prosper, so they can show Americans that communism can work. They especially love China because they have succeeded in corning the market in so many industries, leading lefties to believe that communism deliverers better results than capitalism. Of course, those lefties would never survive in a communist country, but that's beside the point.

I'm all for fair competition, but when the USA is subsidizing China's success, at the expense of USA industry and workers, that is unacceptable.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Maybe I can now go back to eBay and sell without my hi end hand made products being buried by 10000 items of junk.

Do you sell any audio equipment, say perhaps vintage receivers, parts and such?

I do everything in my power to not buy anything from China.

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The American consumer has already been bled to death, so it's a little late for that.





Tariffs have existed in the USA since the USA become a country. It's a little late for you to whine about them, and if they are such a problem, folks are free to leave. American consumers are the fattest on the planet. No one, anywhere, needs to shed a tear, or feel sorry for them.
Please, let me know the day the United States of America becomes a third-world country and when we start receiving financial aid from the rest of the world.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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I'm glad that ended. I had ordered some parts online that ended up getting sent direct to me from China and it was $2.85 for shipping. The same size package was $6 if I was shipping it within the US. What piece of excrement coined that deal to begin with?
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:40 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Just in........

UPU accepts new global rates proposed by Trump administration. Inbound package deliveries to the United States will no longer be subsidized by U.S. taxpayers...
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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You have to remember-liberals are for improving the lot of anyone on earth-EXCEPT AMERICAN citizens. When you look at their actions with that in mind, they actually make sense.
????

How are Americans better off if Chinese sellers get a better shipping deal than American sellers can?

This liberal goes out of my way to buy American. And it's really not a great sacrifice to pay more for things that last. One of my personal mottoes is to never buy cheap ****. It wastes my money and clutters up my life.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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????

How are Americans better off if Chinese sellers get a better shipping deal than American sellers can?

This liberal goes out of my way to buy American. And it's really not a great sacrifice to pay more for things that last. One of my personal mottoes is to never buy cheap ****. It wastes my money and clutters up my life.
Toyman was being sarcastic.
+1 on buying US made. Among many things, went through three blenders before I finally found a 60's-70's era, Made-in-USA, mustard yellow GE with it's giant push buttons that just won't die.
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Old 09-30-2019, 02:57 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I'm glad that ended. I had ordered some parts online that ended up getting sent direct to me from China and it was $2.85 for shipping. The same size package was $6 if I was shipping it within the US. What piece of excrement coined that deal to begin with?
i would dearly like to know. on what level did it ever make sense to subsidize the transport of foreign goods into the US at the expense of domestic?
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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i would dearly like to know. on what level did it ever make sense to subsidize the transport of foreign goods into the US at the expense of domestic?
From what I've read, the UPU has a provision that means that sellers from poor countries get preferential shipping rates. This is an economic development measure to give sellers from very poor countries access to larger markets. China may once have qualified as a very poor country, but they sure don't now.

The UPU is an international organization that was established in 1874, and is now an agency of the UN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Postal_Union

And that's about as much as I know about it!
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