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Old 10-29-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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Where this among other questions are presented: Why did the FDA allow Merck to use Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate (AAHS) as a control group placebo for the HPV vaccine?

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-10-...-injuries.html

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Old 11-01-2019, 06:24 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Where this among other questions are presented: Why did the FDA allow Merck to use Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate (AAHS) as a control group placebo for the HPV vaccine?

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-10-...-injuries.html
Because vaccines cannot be held to the same gold-standard of safety research study as all other medical agents: The saline-placebo, non-self controlled study.

No vaccine safety study ever has or ever will; used a control group that gets the vaccine VS a control group that gets saline.

Testing a vaccine's safety by testing the vaccine against it's own ingredients is like saying that 'smoking cigarettes was found to be safe when compared to smoking cloves.'

Because if they did; it could not be stated as fact that vaccines are safe; there is no such thing as a safe vaccine & the negative impact would be immediately evident.

They will say it is because it is 'unethical' that one group got saline & was deprived a 'life-saving vaccine' when in reality; it's unethical to GIVE a vaccine that has not been proven as safe; in a saline-placebo, non-self controlled study.

The HPV vaccine in particular; appears to be an incredibly dangerous vaccine. Or maybe it is because it's recipients are older & already have developed a certain health & developmental status to where the negative impact of the vaccine is highly evident.

Unlike our babies; who never stood a chance. Some who never had & never will have the words to say; "Help, something has gone terribly wrong since you vaccinated me.'
 
Old 11-03-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Where this among other questions are presented: Why did the FDA allow Merck to use Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate (AAHS) as a control group placebo for the HPV vaccine?

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-10-...-injuries.html
Another point is that Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate is capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier (which is why it is effective for use in vaccines).

But once that barrier has been permeated; it is not selective as to what can reach the brain. There are pathogens all around us; in the air we breathe & on the surfaces we touch.

What using Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate in a 'control' group effectively does; is to allow them to compare adverse events after the brain is left exposed. The control group simply isn't immediately exposed to HPV but both groups will have similar vulnerabilities to pathogens that would normally not reach the brain.

Both groups will suffer the atypical immune-activation of their Microglia cells (immune cells of the brain); which is at the root of all neuroinflammatory vaccine injuries, such as SIDS, ASD, MS, Schizophrenia, Parkinsons, Alzheimer's, Guillain-Barré, etc ...

This type of safety study is designed specifically, to make it impossible for ANY vaccine to be found as unsafe, because they are actually comparing how safe it is to permeate the BBB with HPV VS permeating the BBB with any variety of other germs/bacteria/viruses.

One will not be any worse than the other; which makes the HPV appear not worse; or 'safe'.

This is how ALL vaccines are found safe. By testing them using methods that couldn't possibly find them as NOT safe.
 
Old 11-03-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Because vaccines cannot be held to the same gold-standard of safety research study as all other medical agents: The saline-placebo, non-self controlled study.

No vaccine safety study ever has or ever will; used a control group that gets the vaccine VS a control group that gets saline.

Testing a vaccine's safety by testing the vaccine against it's own ingredients is like saying that 'smoking cigarettes was found to be safe when compared to smoking cloves.'

Because if they did; it could not be stated as fact that vaccines are safe; there is no such thing as a safe vaccine & the negative impact would be immediately evident.

They will say it is because it is 'unethical' that one group got saline & was deprived a 'life-saving vaccine' when in reality; it's unethical to GIVE a vaccine that has not been proven as safe; in a saline-placebo, non-self controlled study.

The HPV vaccine in particular; appears to be an incredibly dangerous vaccine. Or maybe it is because it's recipients are older & already have developed a certain health & developmental status to where the negative impact of the vaccine is highly evident.

Unlike our babies; who never stood a chance. Some who never had & never will have the words to say; "Help, something has gone terribly wrong since you vaccinated me.'
Here you go: HPV vaccine double blind study using saline placebo:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17484215

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Another point is that Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate is capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier (which is why it is effective for use in vaccines).

But once that barrier has been permeated; it is not selective as to what can reach the brain. There are pathogens all around us; in the air we breathe & on the surfaces we touch.

What using Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate in a 'control' group effectively does; is to allow them to compare adverse events after the brain is left exposed. The control group simply isn't immediately exposed to HPV but both groups will have similar vulnerabilities to pathogens that would normally not reach the brain.

Both groups will suffer the atypical immune-activation of their Microglia cells (immune cells of the brain); which is at the root of all neuroinflammatory vaccine injuries, such as SIDS, ASD, MS, Schizophrenia, Parkinsons, Alzheimer's, Guillain-Barré, etc ...

This type of safety study is designed specifically, to make it impossible for ANY vaccine to be found as unsafe, because they are actually comparing how safe it is to permeate the BBB with HPV VS permeating the BBB with any variety of other germs/bacteria/viruses.

One will not be any worse than the other; which makes the HPV appear not worse; or 'safe'.

This is how ALL vaccines are found safe. By testing them using methods that couldn't possibly find them as NOT safe.
There is aluminum all around us, in the food we eat and the air we breathe. It is even in breast milk.

https://www.chop.edu/centers-program...ients/aluminum

What do vaccine preventable diseases do to the brain? You refuse to ever consider that.

Your claiming that "SIDS, ASD, MS, Schizophrenia, Parkinsons, Alzheimer's, Guillain-Barré, etc" are "vaccine injuries" does not make it so. The risk of Guillain Barre is about 17 times higher after flu infection than after getting flu vaccine.

https://www.chop.edu/centers-program...barre-syndrome

More on vaccine trials:

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...linical-trials
 
Old 11-03-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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"In 7 clinical trials (5 Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate [AAHS]-controlled, 1 saline placebo-controlled, and 1 uncontrolled),...."- from the Gardasil insert

How many controlled of each?

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There is aluminum all around us, in the food we eat and the air we breathe. It is even in breast milk.
But there isn't Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate all around us.
 
Old 11-03-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Vaxxed 2 is already sold out in my area. Hoping to be able to watch it online or elsewhere at a later date.
 
Old 11-03-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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"In 7 clinical trials (5 Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate [AAHS]-controlled, 1 saline placebo-controlled, and 1 uncontrolled),...."- from the Gardasil insert

How many controlled of each?
The poster I replied to insists there has never been a saline controlled vaccine study. She is wrong.

Vaccines are many orders of magnitude safer than having the diseases they prevent.

Harping on adjuvants is an antivax method of moving the goalposts. It is deceptive pseudoscientific nonsense.

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But there isn't Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate all around us.
You might want to consider looking into basic inorganic chemistry.

Last edited by suzy_q2010; 11-03-2019 at 12:23 PM..
 
Old 11-03-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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"Insight into the cellular fate and toxicity of aluminium adjuvants used in clinically approved human vaccinations"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4981857/
 
Old 11-03-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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"Insight into the cellular fate and toxicity of aluminium adjuvants used in clinically approved human vaccinations"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4981857/
https://www.obgproject.com/2017/10/0...fety-evidence/

https://pediatrics.aappublications.o.../1394.full.pdf

"However, quantities of mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, human serum albumin, antibiotics, and yeast proteins in vaccines have not been found to be harmful in humans or experimental animals."
 
Old 11-03-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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"We demonstrate that not all aluminium adjuvants are equal neither in terms of their physical properties nor their biological reactivity and potential toxicities both at the injection site and beyond. High loading of aluminium oxyhydroxide in the cytoplasm of THP-1 cells without immediate cytotoxicity might predispose this form of aluminium adjuvant to its subsequent transport throughout the body including access to the brain.

"Aluminium based adjuvants (ABA) are included in human vaccinations to boost or potentiate the immune response, to the injected antigen1."

[my bolds]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4981857/
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