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Old 10-05-2019, 05:29 AM
 
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It's stupid because they already have a sponsor so there is no need for all this extra paperwork.

The immigration system has already verified that they can support themselves and they already cannot get Medicaid. So this is not necessary but Trump doesn't get it.

And how are they supposed to buy into Medicare if they aren't living here yet? They don't get their visa until the last minute. They can't apply from wherever they live, whether it's Italy or Poland or Ireland or wherever. And once they are allowed in, he gives them 30 days. He doesn't have a clue as to how legal immigration works. His stupidity is really showing.
"It's stupid because they already have a sponsor so there is no need for all this extra paperwork."

What is stupid is believing sponsors HAVE to provide health care insurance.


"The CMS on Friday told states on Friday they can count the assets and income of the sponsors of legal immigrants when they're determining whether the immigrants qualify for Medicaid or Children's Health Insurance coverage."

"This could put family members who sponsor relatives, or any group that sponsors legal immigrants, on the hook for all their medical bills."

Meaning they a re NOT "on the hook NOW"
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Not to mention the uninsured Illegal Aliens who come here to have babies and claim citizenship for their newborns: Citizenship was granted to about 275,000 babies born to undocumented immigrant parents in 2014, representing about 7 percent of all births in the country that year, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/1817034002/
Which is another issue this idea won't affect.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by in_newengland View Post
It's stupid because they already have a sponsor so there is no need for all this extra paperwork.

The immigration system has already verified that they can support themselves and they already cannot get Medicaid. So this is not necessary but Trump doesn't get it.

And how are they supposed to buy into Medicare if they aren't living here yet? They don't get their visa until the last minute. They can't apply from wherever they live, whether it's Italy or Poland or Ireland or wherever. And once they are allowed in, he gives them 30 days. He doesn't have a clue as to how legal immigration works. His stupidity is really showing.
Trump. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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"It's stupid because they already have a sponsor so there is no need for all this extra paperwork."

What is stupid is believing sponsors HAVE to provide health care insurance.


"The CMS on Friday told states on Friday they can count the assets and income of the sponsors of legal immigrants when they're determining whether the immigrants qualify for Medicaid or Children's Health Insurance coverage."

"This could put family members who sponsor relatives, or any group that sponsors legal immigrants, on the hook for all their medical bills."

Meaning they a re NOT "on the hook NOW"
Don't know if this is from the same statement but...

From this link https://www.modernhealthcare.com/med...id-eligibility

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This particular guidance refers to the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, and follows a May memo from President Donald Trump that specifically addressed enforcing "legal responsibilities of sponsors of aliens" for healthcare coverage decisions. In that memo, the president directed HHS to "take steps necessary to ensure compliance with requirements" of federal statute including the Immigration and Nationality Act.
So on August 23rd at least the law was that sponsors were responsible for the living costs associated with the sponsored. Unless you can point to a law change since then, it's not law that they need not pay, it may not be enforced, but that's a different issue.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:44 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Good. They should also help pay for mine also.

Isn't this the way Canada does it also?
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:50 AM
 
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First, there is nothing necessarily wrong with requiring health insurance as other countries, such as Russia, require proof of health insurance coverage before they allow you to enter the country.

Second, countries like Russia that do require proof of health insurance, generally require a Visa.

Perhaps this is the first step to expanding Visa requirements. If so, this could be devastating to the US economy.

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Old 10-05-2019, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Immigration laws were originally conceived, among other things, not to burden the American taxpayer.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:59 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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First, there is not necessarily wrong with requiring health insurance as other countries, such as Russia, require proof of health insurance coverage before they allow you to enter the country.

Second, countries like Russia that do require proof of health insurance, generally require a Visa.

Perhaps this is the first step to expanding Visa requirements. If so, this could be devastating to the US economy.
So that's where Trump got the idea! I knew he couldn't have come up with it on his own.
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Old 10-05-2019, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Good! Why should American citizens pay for their healthcare? Let their own country pay for them.
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Old 10-05-2019, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Good. They should also help pay for mine also.

Isn't this the way Canada does it also?
Yes, and Canada has VERY STICT immigration policies. They know they can't afford to pay for everyone's healthcare. Evidently, the Progressives (Democrats) here don't care, and just want more Dem voters paid for by US!
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