Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Nixon was never convicted of a crime. He was pardoned by another Republican before he could be tried anyway.
Let's gather the evidence. It certainly seems that he has both asked and pushed Foreign powers to investigate his political opponents....but wait and see. Don't be impatient.
Um. You DO realize that Trump would be replaced by Pence, yes? That's how it works.
Not if Pence is in on it too. He probably is. It's unlikely Trump would be involved in a scheme that big singlehandedly. But even if Pence had no clue about a deal with Ukraine, Trump would throw him under the bus to save his own ass in a minute. And Pence would still be in the same position; not POTUS.
If you are asking about the criminal Manafort, Flynn and all the others...that is a separate investigation which was being pursued by our national security agencies once they saw the Russians were involved in the 2016 Election......a fact, of course.
This sound like whataboutism. Lots of people in trouble and even some in jail - convicted by Juries or pled out or turned witnesses.
Let's not go off subject. All those people in jail and pleading are proof in itself.
So, I ask, was Nixon a coup? I answered your query. This investigation concerns Ukraine.....
There are lots of other crimes we are not talking about....Rudy is/was on Manafort (the Russians) side and has been involved with the wrong side(s) over in Ukraine like Paul was...
Lots of crimes and lots of conspiracies and lots of bad actors.
But let's stick to the point. Was Nixon a coup?
I think you've already proven you don't care about the whistleblowers or our national security or the constitution or laws. The only question left if how far you will go down that path.
Take a look at the bold folks.....
Trump was doomed prior to him even being inaugurated........
But NOW, it's about THIS investigation..not the last, but THIS investigation....
Note, tho, that some of the Righties here are either trying to stop the gathering of evidence and testimony or pretend it can all be done in a couple of days.
We are likely to have a Constitutional Crisis to add to all of this because the Trump WH may refuse to follow the law in giving Congress what the people paid for. If they withhold evidence, it would be time to hold them in contempt and lock them up if needed.
We simply cannot have a WH that just says "No, we won't give you the stuff that shows how criminal we are".
Most Americans should agree...but, since we are already down the path to Authoritarianism, many do not. They want complete totalitarianism with no answering to the People's House.
If the SCOTUS then says it's OK for the Executive Brand to stonewall...it's all over folks. Every POTUS from this day on will be able to do the same or worse.
Like the obama Whitehouse that used executive privilege on multiple occasions vs congress? You guys are just sore losers. Get over it.
Nixon was never convicted of a crime. He was pardoned by another Republican before he could be tried anyway.
Let's gather the evidence. It certainly seems that he has both asked and pushed Foreign powers to investigate his political opponents....but wait and see. Don't be impatient.
What was that investigation that just ended for? It was to gather evidence and they found nothing. You know the russia probe. How long do we go thru this nonsense? Sore losers.
Like I said earlier, let’s not rush to judgement. There is a complaint, and from a serious person. We shouldn’t ignore it
A serious person? How do you know this person is being kept secret. I could come up with someone who says they heard someone hear you say something, write it down and it be wrong vs the actual transcript. Should you be found guilty and lose your job without being able to defend yourself or at least have your lawyers cross examine the accuser?
I didn't read all 27 pages, but it seems evident to me, that if there was a second whistle blower, who had first hand knowledge of the incident, wouldn't he/she, have been the "first one to come forward, not the second?
The first one only had second hand information.
This second one claims first hand information.
This seems like a very bad stunt by the democrats, just as it was during the confirmation hearings of Kavanaugh.
Line up one who states he did this to me ect, and soon they are all coming out of the woodwork.
This is turning into a circus, with absolutely no credibility on the accusing side.
I don't know about you people, but I am damn tired of all this investigation s*it for over two years now.
Enough is enough, these people in congress need to get back to work and start running the country again.
Bob.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.