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View Poll Results: Is Trump's abandonment of the Kurds Betrayal or Smart?
Betrayal 123 63.73%
Smart 39 20.21%
Other 17 8.81%
Undecided 14 7.25%
Voters: 193. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-07-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard View Post
You decide.


Seems like betrayal to me.
If Turkey attacks the Kurds, kick them out of NATO, shut down Incirlik, kill all their trade deals, levy massive sanctions on their assets, and start drawing up target packages. Simple as that.

 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:31 AM
 
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If Turkey attacks the Kurds, kick them out of NATO, shut down Incirlik, kill all their trade deals, levy massive sanctions on their assets, and start drawing up target packages. Simple as that.

This has got to be the first ever post I agree with you on.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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He doesn't like cheese unless it's powdered or comes in packaged slices.
Just throwing this out there - maybe Syria wouldn’t be in this mess if Barry, Hillary, and Brennan hadn’t tried to overthrow Assad in the first place
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:32 AM
 
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IT's both. The reality is there is no good solutions here. The Turks are a longtime Nato ally, the Kurds have been our ally as well but have been fighting a revolt against the Turks, including what we would consider terrorist acts in Turkey. If we stay, how long do we stay? Months, years, decades, they have been fighting for centuries. How long would it be until Kurds who are being protected by us in Syria slip over the border into Turkey and blowup some women and children? They need to solve their own problems, we can try to mediate but if they insist at shooting at each other the worst thing we can do is step into the middle of it. Enough of our blood and treasure has been spent on interfering with people who have hated each other for centuries. No clean good solution here, its all ugly.
I agree. There were no good solutions here. Obama handed Trump a turd sandwich in Syria. We all know Trump can hardly keep a regular sandwich from turning into a turd, much less reverse the process.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This has got to be the first ever post I agree with you on.
When you are "THE BOSS", you gotta act like THE BOSS!
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Lindsey Graham: ‘ISIS is not defeated. .............
Neither is Nazism. Socialism. The KKK. Al Qaeda. And they never will be.
Get on with your life, OP. Trump is still President.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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Can you remind me about that "Obama's Red Line" criticism again?



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...h-animal-assad
Look where that got us. Thank God Trump had the ballz to clean that mess up.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Seems to me Obama turned you into a warhawk.
Why is it being a 'warhawk' to help and protect a population of people whose troops have risked their lives to help the USA?

Is this how you treat your friends? Or is this just another excuse to deflect from Trump's immorality and attempt to insult President Obama at the same time?

Trump was all for the Iraq War...until the wind blew another way. Was going to drop some bombs on Iran until defense advisors Ingraham and Carlson told him it was a bad idea for re-election. And he's Freddy at the Ready to send troops to fight for the Saudis who attacked us on 9/11.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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True and the irony is that if Obama did the same thing, they would be applauding and fawning.
And maybe even a Nobel Peace Prize thrown in for good measure.
 
Old 10-07-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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Interesting article on the subject. For the naysayers, skip the text and watch the video of Hillary Clinton.

The Real Reason Why There’s War In Syria – Affinity Magazine
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