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Old 10-10-2019, 07:04 AM
 
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Unfortunately, US conservatives simply hate freedom. With a passion. 5 years in jail for growing a marijuana plant. What is the point of that?
Hate freedom?


Is that why liberals are always trying to ban anything and everything and have a liberal brown shirt army (ANTIFA) enacting violence against conservatives?


Grow all the weed you want and have all the abortions you want. That all weakens liberals and reduces their numbers.

 
Old 10-10-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Because modern Liberal/Progressiveism is not the natural state of man.

It's something that has to be taught.

It is the antithesis of the Founders intentions and profoundly un-American.
I don't believe that. Most people are not naturally selfish jerks that don't give a crap about anyone else but themselves, which is what modern conservatism in this country amounts to. That has to be learned/taught
 
Old 10-10-2019, 08:58 AM
 
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Hate freedom?


Is that why liberals are always trying to ban anything and everything and have a liberal brown shirt army (ANTIFA) enacting violence against conservatives?
Antifa would be the red shirts, not the brown shirts.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 10:18 AM
 
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Antifa would be the red shirts, not the brown shirts.
No, the brown shirts.

They try to forcibly shut down or intimidate anything that goes against their extreme political ideology
 
Old 10-10-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I don't believe that. Most people are not naturally selfish jerks that don't give a crap about anyone else but themselves, which is what modern conservatism in this country amounts to. That has to be learned/taught




"Liberals" stopped being about freedom when they decided that being a part of "the collective" is mandatory.

You have a right to be a selfish jerk if you want to.

That's freedom.

"Charity" ceases to be charity the moment that it becomes compulsory.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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"Liberals" stopped being about freedom when they decided that being a part of "the collective" is mandatory.

You have a right to be a selfish jerk if you want to.

That's freedom.

"Charity" ceases to be charity the moment that it becomes compulsory.
That's your thought, and the only reason to be against "compulsory charity" imo is if you were never going to donate anything to begin with
 
Old 10-10-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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That's your thought, and the only reason to be against "compulsory charity" imo is if you were never going to donate anything to begin with



There is no honor in taking from one person to give to another.

No matter how much the person that you take from has or how much the person you give to needs.

If you rob me in an alley and use the money to feed the homeless.....


You're still a thief.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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There is no honor in taking from one person to give to another.

No matter how much the person that you take from has or how much the person you give to needs.

If you rob me in an alley and use the money to feed the homeless.....


You're still a thief.
Taxes aren't theft, sad you don't know that
 
Old 10-10-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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No, the brown shirts.

They try to forcibly shut down or intimidate anything that goes against their extreme political ideology
Antifa are literal communists... exactly like the red shirts. Forcibly shutting down or intimidating anything that goes against their extreme political ideology is absolutely in line with that.

Fortunately there are no brown shirts in the US, let's hope it stays that way. Crushing the modern day red shirts would go a long way towards that goal as communist propaganda and violent communist actions is what directly led to the rise of the brown shirts and fascism. If there was no red shirts, there would have been no Hitler.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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A typical hostile response from a lib who cannot face the reality of liberalism’s origins.

Your “values” were born from the toxic mind of Stalin in order to destabilize the west. Liberals have been used as Mao’s “useful idiots” to advance an agenda which seeks to subjugate, not liberate, people under the boot heel of an oppressive government.

Libs have been played as fools and are simply unable to see that their presumably “altruistic” notions have been used to cull the ignorant to a standard which seeks to destroy individual liberties.
Seriously, hawkeye, As a liberal, I have no idea what the heck you're attempting to get across. I most certainly can not relate to one word of it. So tell me something. What web sites do you use to get indoctrinated into believing that liberals are quite bad, highly undesirable people, because of the way they think? For all we know those sites are WRONG!
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