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And I'll ask again, why does it now take an investigation, whereas you already had 2+ years....now you're really going to get him....
You seem to be questioning the timeline, and to be assuming that the investigation that might potentially lead to Trump's impeachment began over two years ago. That is incorrect. While other questionable deeds and statements of Trump's have been looked into, it is his conversation with the president of Ukraine, which took place in July, which is under the microscope now. The details of that conversation only surfaced a couple of weeks ago, and it's been moving at warp speed ever since.
No way to investigate something prior to its occurrence. Other questionable deeds were noted, and the Mueller investigation was created to deal with them. Mueller's vague conclusions confused many, though he did NOT let Trump off the hook, as Trump claimed and as so many of his followers crowed. But the Mueller Report is not part of the current investigation, which is founded in Trump's unconstitutional behavior and remarks during his July phone call with the president of Ukraine.
Hope this clarifies it, as you seem to be having an extremely difficult time understanding what's going on, despite the repeated efforts of many posters here to help you out.
No sir or madam, it is the law. Why do you want American CD posters or any CD poster to believe a blatant lie that you have written? If you fail to understand the law as many of us have posted here, perhaps you will believe it from the Federal Election Commission Chair, Ellen Weintraub:
She recently felt it necessary to refute liars and educate citizens who have been misled and put out a Tweet saying what Trump did was illegal. " It’s pretty simple. There is no gray area. I would not have thought that I needed to say this,” she wrote, attaching a statement clarifying that “it is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
“This is not a novel concept,” she added. “Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been wrong since the beginning of our nation.”
I've refuted her biased contention a dozen times on this site. If you don't want to take my word for it, ask Attorney General Bill Barr or Special Prosecutor Bob Mueller. They agree with me. There's no way in hell this is a crime under that statute.
The solicitation of a foreign government to help a campaign IS a crime. All you have to do is ASK and it is a crime. The law is that foreign nationals are not allowed to participate in our elections and that includes campaigns.
For impeachment no quid pro quo is required. This kind of corruption that sullies the interest of the United States based on the President's own political campaign is a classic high crime and misdemeanor and exactly the kind of abuse of office that the framers had in mind when they gave the House the power to impeach and the Senate the power to remove.
The only question is, are there going to be 20 Republican Senators who are concerned enough about national security to do the right thing for this country
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That's all made up. Totally false.
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No sir or madam, it is the law. Why do you want American CD posters or any CD poster to believe a blatant lie that you have written? If you fail to understand the law as many of us have posted here, perhaps you will believe it from the Federal Election Commission Chair, Ellen Weintraub:
She recently felt it necessary to refute liars and educate citizens who have been misled, and put out a Tweet saying what Trump did was illegal. " It’s pretty simple. There is no gray area. I would not have thought that I needed to say this,” she wrote, attaching a statement clarifying that “it is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
“This is not a novel concept,” she added. “Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been wrong since the beginning of our nation.”
So I repeat, hbdwihdnh378y9: That which you claim is made up, IS IN FACT THE TRUTH:The solicitation of a foreign national or government to help a campaign IS a crime. All you have to do is ASK and it is a crime. The law is that foreign nationals are not allowed to participate in our elections and that includes campaigns.
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It's not a lie. You're the blatant liar here.
hbdwihdh378y9, please research it if you won't believe all those, here, who have identified the law and quoted credible sources who explain the same
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, dear, but not his own facts.
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Perhaps you need to refresh your computer, or check unbiased news sites.
Google is not always your friend, when its information is outdated yet still appears.
Perhaps you could try the same, since you obviously aren't able to find any evidence that this has occurred, either. Otherwise you would have posted a link.
In normal circumstances, the order seems illogical since the diplomat is a DT cronie and is likely to give favorable testimony. DT is going for broke on the cover-up, lending further credence to the whistle-blower's report.
You seem to be questioning the timeline, and to be assuming that the investigation that might potentially lead to Trump's impeachment began over two years ago. That is incorrect. While other questionable deeds and statements of Trump's have been looked into, it is his conversation with the president of Ukraine, which took place in July, which is under the microscope now. The details of that conversation only surfaced a couple of weeks ago, and it's been moving at warp speed ever since.
No way to investigate something prior to its occurrence. Other questionable deeds were noted, and the Mueller investigation was created to deal with them. Mueller's vague conclusions confused many, though he did NOT let Trump off the hook, as Trump claimed and as so many of his followers crowed. But the Mueller Report is not part of the current investigation, which is founded in Trump's unconstitutional behavior and remarks during his July phone call with the president of Ukraine.
Hope this clarifies it, as you seem to be having an extremely difficult time understanding what's going on, despite the repeated efforts of many posters here to help you out.
Here, let me clarify for you: The left has been seeking impeachment since before trump was even our president.
Now, you can say that the russia collusion, stormy, comey/mueller time...et al.......were not part of the initial/secondary/third... impeachment series, but after the third try, to get something to impeach trump, people opened their eyes..
Sorry I had to break it down to kindergarten easy....for you, but it needed to be...
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