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Old 10-09-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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You know that paid maternity leave (usually 10-months or longer) is the norm in most developed countries, right?
Which most. Looking at one study of 21 high economic countries, Germany, Sweden and Norway were the only countries that provided 10 or more paid months of parental leave.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Americans pay almost as much as other citizens of the developed world do, yet they receive far less. Part of that is because of the incessant dummycrat worship of illegals, but let's be real here. For the considerably lower level of social services and benefits (and even things like consumer/worker protections), Americans should be paying WAY less in taxes than they are.
We pay less here, someone posted a chart here a little while ago showing that the Nordic countries were all paying much higher rates of total taxes.

I do agree though that we do pay much more than we should be for the level of service we receive. I don't know why the Dem front runners are putting out the welcome mat for the rest of the world to come here. We can't take care of what we've got properly, in my opinion. So sure, let's bring in tons of low skilled workers that tend have large families, let's just bring in all in, screw the struggling people we have here right now. Let's make our poor and low skilled workers compete with more low skilled workers. Sounds like a humane thing to do to me.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Which most. Looking at one study of 21 high economic countries, Germany, Sweden and Norway were the only countries that provided 10 or more paid months of parental leave.
Canada offers 12-months of maternity leave at 55% of pay.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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Americans pay almost as much as other citizens of the developed world do, yet they receive far less. Part of that is because of the incessant dummycrat worship of illegals, but let's be real here. For the considerably lower level of social services and benefits (and even things like consumer/worker protections), Americans should be paying WAY less in taxes than they are.
Do they? I havent dove into it but a quick look Germany 42%, Sweden 56%, Norway 45%. Am I missing something?
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:01 PM
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Location: California
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Leave Norway out of any comparisons. They reap a LOT of money per capita from exporting oil and gas. That money is starting to decline though.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Why is it that liberals are always overly generous with these entitlements from afar, yet, whenever videos surface of them being confronted and being asked for money on the spot to support the causes they champion from afar they always make an excuse or try to change the subject.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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Canada offers 12-months of maternity leave at 55% of pay.
Which is equivalent to about 4 months paid leave. Its up to 15 weeks paid at 55% of average weekly pay if I understand correctly, which maxes out at 543/week for 15 weeks.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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I think it is a great proposition. Families are the basis of a society and IMO in America we have more crime and more issues because we don't value family like other modern nations and the importance of bonding with children. Children do better when they have a parent at home with them. As another poster said, in most of Europe this is standard.

On salary amounts, IMO that is not what most people will get. I don't like her methods for the federal tax amount though. IMO she should come up with a better funding method. The responsibility should be shared, in part by government though.
But isnt it the children brought up in single parent homes, often no one working that end up involved in most crimes. Not sure how federal mandated 6 month parental leave for working or duel income homes is going to offset the crime statistics.

IMO the responsibility should be on the employee. Offer voluntary maternity insurance. If you are of childbearing age you can pay into an insurance fund that will cover your paid leave. Those who are not going to reproduce or choose not to dont pay into or receive benefits from it.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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It is my understanding both the employer and employee contribute to the premium. Rates may vary by Province.

Insurance dates back to ancient times. Commercial insurance markets have existed for nearly 700 years.

ALL insurance mutualizes ( socializes) risks.
Employers in Canada do not contribute a separate maternity/parental premium. It is part of the EI ( employment insurance ) that they pay into for all employees, whether they take maternity/parental leave or not.

EDIT: I should add, that employers can offer leave benefits on top of what is offered by EI. My company did, letting people put the holiday time onto the leave, and even giving some extra paid time off.

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Old 10-09-2019, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Why do we reward people for having children??

I just don’t get it.
It's not a reward. It's just common sense. Children bond better and do better with having a full time parent around for their first year.

It benefits society.
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