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Old 10-14-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Trump does nothing without the blessing of his various puppet masters.
Yep. This has Putin's fingerprints all over it. Trump just did his master's bidding.
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Old 10-14-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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Trump does nothing without the blessing of his various puppet masters.
From reading here, his puppet masters are Russia, Israel, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. Does Trump take orders from all of them, take turns, majority vote, or depends on the issue ?
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Old 10-14-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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Lebanon, Golan Heights, Haiti, Kosovo etc. Right now they are in 14 places.

Might as well use them since they are already paid for. Nations are careful to not cross them since they have international backing.
Their presence does not equal success. It typically equals graft, racketeering, arms dealing and the optics of "we care" from the global "community."

And nations cross the UN all the time, since the UN has no legit lawmaking power over any nation that doesn't feel like paying attention to them. They condemn Israel 3x a week and have since the 50s...has it stopped Israel doing things according to their own sovereignty and self-interests?

The UN is utterly useless for anything other than gadfly nations to talk crap to various 1st world countries they hate and get away with it. They serve no other useful purpose.
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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It's ok Jeff. You might act like my words to you are folly. However, you know I am right. It's ok. You got taken. But don't make it worse and continue to defend him. He would not spend a second to defend you
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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From reading here, his puppet masters are Russia, Israel, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. Does Trump take orders from all of them, take turns, majority vote, or depends on the issue ?
Pretty much sums up how loony the left sound these days, doesn't? Everybody is Trump's "puppet master". Sounds almost as stupid as "Russian Collusion" and the faux "impeachment" smokescreen.
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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I'm not really up on all of this, but yeah, it seems like it was a move of desperation.

I understand people wanting out of the Middle East, but it matters HOW you do it. I think this will bite us in the butt later. Basically, the US is viewed as having no honor now (in many ways, with many countries).

We cannot live in a bubble.
Without the cooperation of Turkey, there is no corridor for the US, British, and Israelis to truck the oil out of Syria. The situation has changed since the failure of the US coup attempt against Erdogan and Syria defeated ISIS which had the support of Turkey along with the above-named governments and many others.

It remains to be seen what happens next since much of the territory occupied by the US and the Kurds were inhabited by the Sunnis, many of whom have fled to Turkey.
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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Pretty much sums up how loony the left sound these days, doesn't? Everybody is Trump's "puppet master". Sounds almost as stupid as "Russian Collusion" and the faux "impeachment" smokescreen.
The thing rhat troubles you in your mind and heart is that for years you have marginalized every thing the Looney left has said. You probably use terms like Hollyweird, Lib tards, socialists, to dismiss every thing you think they believe. Yet, your confronted with the unsettling fear we have been right more then we have been wrong and by extension you have been wrong more then you have been right. It's unsettling so you get more stubborn and dig in some more.
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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US should not be conspiring with Russia and Turkey against our allies.
An old knee-jerk habit of the U.S.

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/07/...rump-betrayal/
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:29 PM
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So the Kurds, Syrian Army backed by Russia are now confronting Turkey, who just purchased Russian S-400s? So the S-400s will shoot down Russian airplanes? Can't make this stuff up. Glad we're hightailing out of this mess.
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