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Originally Posted by silverkris
So what? As someone who grew up as a member of a minority culture group here, my heart just bleeds for you in sympathy......not!
Maybe for once, just perhaps, you'll better learn what it's like to walk in someone else's shoes. But I'm not holding my breath.
Why do white Americans have to "walk in someone else's shoes?" White folks' ancestors created the most free and open and fair-to-minority societies on the planet. People are lucky to be in the USA in comparison. Unless you're black, aint nobody forced you or your ancestors here.
So....just curious.... the countries where YOUR people hail from (the origin of the "minority culture" you're a member of).... they as free and open and fair to minorities as the US... or nah?
Awful lot of "non-white" people running around with chips on their shoulders in the US when the countries their own ancestors came from are absolute regressive ****holes that are awful places to be a minority. You offer no hope that a "non-white majority" country would be MORE fair to minorities. Since there are precious few examples of same in the world. So why on earth would any white person be comfortable with the alternative you present to the status quo?
Why do white Americans have to "walk in someone else's shoes?" White folks' ancestors created the most free and open and fair-to-minority societies on the planet.
So....just curious.... the countries where YOUR people hail from.... they as free and open and fair to minorities as the US... or nah?
Awful lot of "non-white" people running around with chips on their shoulders in the US when the countries their own ancestors came from are absolute regressive ****holes that are awful places to be a minority. You offer no hope that a "non-white majority" country would be MORE fair to minorities. Since there are precious few examples of same in the world.
Funny how that works.
Don't break your hand patting yourself on the back with self congratulatory prattle.
Let's just take the USA for an example. That "Free, open and fair to minorities" stuff wasn't given to them at the onset, like it was to white people, both native born and immigrants. It took a civil war, lots of conflict, and advocacy by such minorities to get there ----- against a whole lot of white resistance. It was earned and fought for, and against opposition represented by the reactionary chauvinism that you often advocate. Can't have it both ways.
Don't break your hand patting yourself on the back with self congratulatory prattle.
Let's just take the USA for an example. That "Free, open and fair to minorities" stuff wasn't given to them at the onset, like it was to white people, both native born and immigrants. It took a civil war, lots of conflict, and advocacy by such minorities to get there ----- against a whole lot of white resistance. It was earned and fought for, and against opposition represented by the reactionary chauvinism that you often advocate. Can't have it both ways.
Miss me with that nonsense and gaslighting.
Minorities in this country have what they have because they fought back. Blacks especially. We have a fairer society than ever before because of that fighting back. Societies with that "fairness" involved, there were certain groups who were openly excluded from it.
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Originally Posted by silverkris
Don't break your hand patting yourself on the back with self congratulatory prattle.
Let's just take the USA for an example. That "Free, open and fair to minorities" stuff wasn't given to them at the onset, like it was to white people, both native born and immigrants. It took a civil war, lots of conflict, and advocacy by such minorities to get there ----- against a whole lot of white resistance. It was earned and fought for, and against opposition represented by the reactionary chauvinism that you often advocate. Can't have it both ways.
Miss me with that nonsense and gaslighting.
Yes. Progress was hard fought. So what? At least the progress was made - as a direct consequence of the superior cultural foundations laid out within the post-enlightenment period which runs through western civilization.
What excuse do you have in 2020 for "your people" and the countries THEY RUN while you're casting stones about WHITE PEOPLE having to "walk in your shoes?" *********r shoes.
Your people (whatever they are) obviously didn't bother caring about fighting for "minority rights" until THEY WERE MINORITIES THEMSELVES in a "white country" and got what is usually these days just a TINY taste of what minorities in the "home country" go through. Today.
Which is the typical pattern, isn't it? Your people didn't fight for minorities "back home".... otherwise there'd be progress in those countries for minorities. No, YOUR people only give a crap when they're on the RECEIVING END in a foreign place.
Don't EVER overstate your role. If white Americans were a fraction as racist as minorities say they were, this country would look like the places your people come from.
Location: Somewhere between the Americas and Western Europe
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Originally Posted by green_mariner
Minorities in this country have what they have because they fought back. Blacks especially. We have a fairer society than ever before because of that fighting back. Societies with that "fairness" involved, there were certain groups who were openly excluded from it.
That "fighting back" is only tolerated in societies that already have a penchant for it due to cultural conditioning.
You don't get rights unless you convince a morally open society that you are deserving. In most other parts of the non-white world, the response to minority agitation for equality is not imperfect progress, but suppression.
So what? As someone who grew up as a member of a minority culture group here, my heart just bleeds for you in sympathy......not!
Maybe for once, just perhaps, you'll better learn what it's like to walk in someone else's shoes. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Originally Posted by AHenriques1147
Why do white Americans have to "walk in someone else's shoes?" White folks' ancestors created the most free and open and fair-to-minority societies on the planet. People are lucky to be in the USA in comparison. Unless you're black, aint nobody forced you or your ancestors here.
So....just curious.... the countries where YOUR people hail from (the origin of the "minority culture" you're a member of).... they as free and open and fair to minorities as the US... or nah?
Awful lot of "non-white" people running around with chips on their shoulders in the US when the countries their own ancestors came from are absolute regressive ****holes that are awful places to be a minority. You offer no hope that a "non-white majority" country would be MORE fair to minorities. Since there are precious few examples of same in the world. So why on earth would any white person be comfortable with the alternative you present to the status quo?
Minorities in this country have what they have because they fought back. Blacks especially. We have a fairer society than ever before because of that fighting back. Societies with that "fairness" involved, there were certain groups who were openly excluded from it.
That particular poster wants credit for it - as if the (white dominated) power establishment gave equality and opportunities to non-white people without asking or demanding to be treated like everyone else. Puhleez.
Yes. Progress was hard fought. So what? At least the progress was made - as a direct consequence of the superior cultural foundations laid out within the post-enlightenment period which runs through western civilization.
What excuse do you have in 2020 for "your people" and the countries THEY RUN while you're casting stones about WHITE PEOPLE having to "walk in your shoes?" *********r shoes.
Your people (whatever they are) obviously didn't bother caring about fighting for "minority rights" until THEY WERE MINORITIES THEMSELVES in a "white country" and got what is usually these days just a TINY taste of what minorities in the "home country" go through. Today.
Which is the typical pattern, isn't it? Your people didn't fight for minorities "back home".... otherwise there'd be progress in those countries for minorities. No, YOUR people only give a crap when they're on the RECEIVING END in a foreign place.
Don't EVER overstate your role. If white Americans were a fraction as racist as minorities say they were, this country would look like the places your people come from.
Sorry. My country is the USA, and my people are here. Period.
Dispense with the whataboutism and strawman rubbish. Puhleez.
Miss me with the self-congratulatory bovine manure.
You don't get rights unless you convince a morally open society that you are deserving. In most other parts of the non-white world, the response to minority agitation for equality is not imperfect progress, but suppression.
Excuse me? You mean if I'm non white, I have to show that I deserve the same rights that are given to white people, no questions asked, without their having to ask for it or prove it? Just because supposedly my ancestors lived in a more repressive country and that's OK?
Conditional equal rights? Really now.
Did you also just come back from an AmRen convention, too?
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