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Old 10-13-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
I've been reading Babylon bee ever since it started running, as most political junkies have been. Just because you limit yourself to Vox, Mediaite, HuffPost and all the other DNC brainwashing sites does not mean everyone does.
Aren't you glad someone finally told you it was satire???
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Old 10-13-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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26 months had passed from the time of the Watergate break in to when Nixon left town. Relax kiddies. We haven`t even scratched the surface of this thing yet. Trump`s swamp will make Nixon`s swamp look like a wading pool.



^^^^ This is absolutely true. This is not a quick process, it takes time to unfold.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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"The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as dishonesty, negligence, perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of public funds or assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, or tax evasion."

I won't even start on dishonesty. Trump is the most dishonest president we have ever had. He keeps the fact checkers in business. But considering all our politicians are liars, that's not really a high crime.

Negligence-the fact that Trump spends nearly half his term in office vacationing and rallying is plenty of proof that he is neglecting his duties big time. And what about all the time he spends tweeting and watching TV?

Abuse of authority-here's a big one. How many times has he refused to obey the orders of Congress because "I'm the president?"
Zero. There are no "orders of Congress" that he peossibly could have disobeyed..
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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Tax evasion-Where are those tax returns again?
In the files of the IRS, right where they're supposed to be. You people have lost your minds.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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Do these folks who are still in the dark about Trump's criminal behavior, are they able to read?
You're in the dark like the rest of us. You can't identify any crime by Trump.
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Old 10-13-2019, 12:24 PM
 
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Then post an article about when he submitted his tax returns. Wait, you don't have it? Guess he hasn't submitted them and I was telling the truth. And Trump has played gold 103 times and cost us $109 MILLION dollars when he said he would not take vacations. And he hosted 63 pointless post inauguration rallies, taking away from time he should be in the White House. Sounds like he's neglecting his duties to me. He openly called on China and Ukraine to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. And Trump has lied more than 12,000 times since his inauguration, which makes him the most dishonest president in history. And he is also refusing to cooperate with Congress. So why exactly are you defending a lazy pathological liar who is quite possibly betraying our country?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/u...e-impeach.html

https://trumpgolfcount.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ims-over-days/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Trump_rallies
What was the point of this reply? That something you posted may be right so we should forget you put quotes around a fabrication to present a lie?
Trump never said dig up dirt. He wanted the matter investigated. If there was nothing to it that would be the end of it
Thats why this whole coup attempt will fail. Only you haters are so delusional you cannot see the partisan slant here.
[b]You repeatedly present the sole angle that a president has no right to ask another country to look into an officials corrupt behavior and doing so could only be for political gain. And this brings us to the topic at hand. NAME THE FEDERAL CODE OR STATUTE TRUMP WAS IN VIOLATION OF BY ASKING A FOREIGN NATION TO LOOK INTO CORRUPTION WITHIN ITS BORDERS BY A US OFFICIAL.

Then perhaps you can explain how Trump would politically benefit from this investigation if the Bidens were innocent... and then explain why you have no interest in their thus obvious guilt!
Forget about the Bidens and their shady Ukraine dealings! Lets instead prosecute the duly elected head of state who wants them investigated!
Maybe thats what this is all about? Hillary's Clinton Foundation... became forgotten when the email controversy became about classified documents instead of why did she need a private server (to hide pay for play) Bidens son enriching himself with daddys power in Ukraine.. is this all a smokescreen to cover for the most corrupt administration in modern history?
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Old 10-13-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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To answer your question, Trump could gain a lot from convincing a country to make an allegation into illegal activity by Biden and/or his son. He literally said what he "believed" Biden did wrong, so all he needed to do was get Ukraine to announce they are re-opening the case. Since the new president there is considered to be honest, it would have looked really bad for Biden heading into the primary season. Unfortunately for Trump, Ukraine's president is actually honest so he refused.

Hunter was hired to be on the board by a private company in Ukraine - probably because he had a famous father. Burisma was inviting high-profile Americans and Europeans to join the board at the time. Nothing unusual or illegal there.

What is unusual and illegal is to take money from Russian mafia sources, use a private lawyer to conduct state business and leverage the office of the president and the foreign policy of the USA to damage a political rival with fake criminal charges.

Its as anti american as it gets and its also corrupt.
Thats rich. A Ukrainian gas company pays sons of former U S politicians piles of money to sit on their board... for mere name recognition?
Well lets forget Biden is regarded by everyone as a buffoon... but we all know it actually does work like this sometimes for one reason. The expectations of favors by political influence.
Youre the son of the US VP. We hire you because you can get things done for us with your fathers position.

You made my argument for me.
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Old 10-13-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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Thats rich. A Ukrainian gas company pays sons of former U S politicians piles of money to sit on their board... for mere name recognition?
Well lets forget Biden is regarded by everyone as a buffoon... but we all know it actually does work like this sometimes for one reason. The expectations of favors by political influence.
Youre the son of the US VP. We hire you because you can get things done for us with your fathers position.

You made my argument for me.
Uh, this type of stuff has been going on 100% legally for centuries. Nothing wrong with it.....not even close....on a legal level.

Surely you know that Neil Bush, BROTHER of the others, sat on the Board of Silverado Savings that failed and was given OVER A BILLION DOLLARS of your money in a bailout? There are thousands of such examples.

I don't see where your example cost me a penny. Nor where it even starts to be law breaking.

Surely you know that the RIGHT is who favored unlimited money in politics (they did away with most campaign reform and fought for Citizens United).....

You can find a LOT worse examples then populating Boards with Names. There are many thousands of similar instances....and zero of them are a problem legally.

It is a problem when a sitting POTUS does stuff for money or for personal favors.

It's as if the right doesn't know the difference between a speck of sand and a mountain. Both are comprised of a hard material. Period.

Write on the blackboard 100 times. Nothing wrong with using name influence to sit on a board...or be hired....or be paid as a consultant....or most anything else.

Then write "different rules apply to sitting politicians".
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The Babylon Bee is a satire site, as is the article linked in the OP. However-it brings up a very real question-a question that the mainstream media obviously should be asking. Why is it a problem if our president asks a foreign nation, one in line to receive a billion dollars in US taxpayer money-to look into charges of corruption within it's administration? Why is it wrong to look into corruption that involved a US vice president-one who threatened to withhold US taxpayer dollars-unless that country STOPPED INVESTIGATING CORRUPTION into a company that just so happened to employ his son. Why are we not supposed to care about corrupt, if not criminal acts committed by government officials, simply because they are members of the Democratic party? Perhaps...if our MSM would explain those details...it wouldn't be necessary to satirize both the MSM and many of the Democratic party.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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You mean Babylon Bee is satire? Good grief, you libs are just like the people you vote for. No sense of humor and no common sense.
I'm a liberal. And I do indeed think the the Babylon Bee can be pretty funny. And if, when you'd posted it, you would have added the comment that you thought it was a pretty good satire, you would have gotten a far different reaction.

But you didn't do that, did you? I wonder why...
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