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View Poll Results: Is our world overpopulated?
Yes 115 70.12%
No 49 29.88%
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Yes it is overpopulated, most of our problems are sheer numbers. Deforestation for farming, lack of water resources, destruction of marine life and food chain, sewage disposal to support current population.

Some very poor choices out of desperation add to the problem.
Not to mention over-fishing, which is a huge issue and causing problems for other marine animals up in the food chain.

 
Old 10-13-2019, 11:14 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Yes.

And you also have to include the enormous number of LIVESTOCK to feed these people all around the world as well. Which now greatly outnumbers wildlife, sadly enough
But that's something we could easily change. Many experts recommend eating way less animal food, anyway.

There was a time when millions of giant plant-eating dinosaurs were roaming the world, each hundreds of times the weight of a human and probably emitting lots of methane like cows today. And there were millions of predator dinosaurs in addition to that.
 
Old 10-13-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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No - we still have vast areas with no one in them in every country even small islands. Humans have expiration dates
Much of the areas are likely used to grow and raise livestock. I.e. more cows than people in some areas lol...
 
Old 10-13-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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But that's something we could easily change. Many experts recommend eating way less animal food, anyway.

There was a time when millions of giant plant-eating dinosaurs were roaming the world, each hundreds of times the weight of a human and probably emitting lots of methane like cows today. And there were millions of predator dinosaurs in addition to that.
Getting people to go vegetarian or vegan probably isn't realistic for most.

As for people eating less meat, the OPPOSITE occurs when countries start moving up the economic ladder. Which is happening for both China and India.
 
Old 10-13-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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But that's something we could easily change. Many experts recommend eating way less animal food, anyway.
Those people aren't experts.
 
Old 10-13-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: London
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I'd argue that both developed and developing countries should have fewer kids.

The developing world for obvious reasons; they simply can't afford to take care of more people.

The developed world because virtually every kid there will create an enormous environmental footprint.
 
Old 10-13-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Getting people to go vegetarian or vegan probably isn't realistic for most.

As for people eating less meat, the OPPOSITE occurs when countries start moving up the economic ladder. Which is happening for both China and India.
Yes, unfortunately most people in those countries are so busy with their material progress that they don't think beyond that, yet. Indians are replacing their rich cultural and religious heritage with material progress.

Many poor people also don't care much about the environment.
 
Old 10-13-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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I'd argue that both developed and developing countries should have fewer kids.

The developing world for obvious reasons; they simply can't afford to take care of more people.

The developed world because virtually every kid there will create an enormous environmental footprint.
Yes, the problem is that the developed countries are setting a horrible, unsustainable example that developing countries are following.
If we really cared about the future of our planet, we would do everything we can to end poverty in developing countries, but we don't.
 
Old 10-13-2019, 12:01 PM
 
Location: 404
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The population was around a billion at the start of the fossil fuel age. We can take that as a limit of how many people can live without fossil fuels. The number will still drop far below a billion, since centuries of environmental destruction will reduce the world's food supply after industrial farming disappears. Soil erosion, infertility, and contamination will take many more centuries to reverse. Nuclear radiation will stay for many thousands of years. Inedible species such as most jellyfish may replace meaty fish in the oceans. Getting back up to a billion is a long way off, if ever.
 
Old 10-13-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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The population was around a billion at the start of the fossil fuel age.
I think the reason for that was simply that the world used to be very sparsely populated, it took some time for the snowball effect to hit. So, no, I don't think it has anything to do with the onset of the fossil fuel age.

I think you are too pessimistic.
For instance, the EU has implemented fishing policies prohibiting the capture of certain fish species beyond specific quota per species and year. And that has rapidly lead to a rebound of those species in overfished waters.

If we wanted to, we could fix our planet very fast. All that is missing is the will on the part of our leaders.
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