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Decision making is done through the people who actually work in the organization. Through trade unions, worker's councils and citizens' assemblies. Of course some people will have more say in their field of expertise but that will be a democratic decision. Workers actually feeling empowered and not merely worker-bees in an authoritarian system is by far the most effective way to benefit everyone.
Through decentralized free associations without social, economic or political coercion. The closest example would probably be regions of Spain during the civil war there in the 1930s.
Through decentralized free associations without social, economic or political coercion. The closest example would probably be regions of Spain during the civil war there in the 1930s.
So how would different areas of the country come to a consensus on trade, and environmental laws, among other things. How would disputes about federal highway construction, or any other national issue needing oversight be settled?
To me it really just sounds like replacing municipal with association. Humans being humans, will make these associations political. Heck even my mother's bridge club became political.
Unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about. Venezuela has a lit of fat people, especially so before the 2017. Low quality foods make people fat. Highly processed, high fat high sugar, low nutriental food. Google it.
They HAD fat people, that was before socialism and the "Maduro diet"
Decision making is done through the people who actually work in the organization. Through trade unions, worker's councils and citizens' assemblies. Of course some people will have more say in their field of expertise but that will be a democratic decision. Workers actually feeling empowered and not merely worker-bees in an authoritarian system is by far the most effective way to benefit everyone.
Most "workers" are clueless. If they weren't, they be running their own business.
Having "empowered" workers, with a horizon about 2' away, won't work. They don't even know what a "big picture" is, much less be able to see it. There job is to produce by plying their trade. The beauty of capitalism is that if you have a worker that actually does see the big picture, he can start his or her own business, and make it big, or move into management.
Your seriously over-estimate "workers" while underestimating the complexities of management - especially in the modern world.
While your ideas sound appealing to some, they are doomed to fail in almost all cases.
Pretty much every business is private in a socialist system. Again, socialism has nothing to do with government or making a government big. Nor anything to do with taxes. You dont have employees. Workers are worker-owners. And you dont get to rule over other people. As power always corrupts. Decision making would be decentralized and democratic. Not top-down and authoritarian whether from a politician or CEO.
If I had a business that I started with my money, others who did not fund the business will not be “owners†but employees and they will do what I tell them or get fired.
That’s the real world. Not some utopian fantasy.
As usual people talking over each other, probably agreeing more than they realize, since VERY few people would really want TRUE Socialism. So let's clear up the definitions.
Then you have places like Canada, which is NOT socialist, and not a true social democracy, but a Parliamentary Democracy with social programs, but still a free market economy. Some call it capitalism with a conscience.
The US has this to a degree. What do you think regulations on industry are?
Surprised no lefties have chimed in with claims that socialism works, while using capitalist countries with big social safety nets (Nordic model) as "proof". They are probably too busy harassing Americans for wearing a hat they don't like. The opposite of anything productive.
Which brings me to my main point. The systems used are only part of the equation. You can work as hard as you want, but if you are not working in an efficient manner, all might be for not. Capitalism does a good job of making sure people aren't wasting more time than necessary. However, our capitalist model has been under attack for quite some time now. I'm not sure if efficiency is the primary concern anymore. As long as fat profits can be achieved by the elites and corporations, nobody cares if worker's time and lives are wasted in the process.
In my opinion, that explains much of the wage stagnation over the years. The only solution is to limit the influence of socialism in our system, as we have a "mixed economic model" that incorporates elements of both capitalism and socialism. I think we need to move away from socialism-lite, and the reliance on trade deals and subsidies that corporations use to patch over inefficiencies in their business model.
Why do we need to do this? Because freedom is not free. If we hope to remain free, than we have to be able to rely on ourselves and our capabilities, if push ever comes to shove. We depend far too much on nations like China, basically feeding their military and strengthening their socialist model of oppression and bullying people into submission. I think we are doing their neighbors a great disservice by doing so.
I'm trying to figure out what you are advocating for in this post.
"As long as fat profits can be achieved by the elites and corporations, nobody cares if worker's time and lives are wasted in the process." Isn't that exactly what pure capitalism is about?
"I think we need to move away from ......... reliance on trade deals and subsidies that corporations use to patch over inefficiencies in their business model." I agree with this, but I fail to see what it has to do with socialism. Unless you're talking about socialism for the wealthy, which is what we have today.
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