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My very first time to vote was the governors election in Louisiana when Edwin Edwards (a noted despicable person with very liberal views) was running against David Duke (A noted despicable person who is also a racist bigot dirt bag)
i am a conservative. i grew up waiting for the day i got to vote AGAINST Edwin Edwards
I voted FOR Edwin Edwards.
Thank God i am not in that situation again. Right now we have a president who morally speaking is equal to the culture. That means pretty far gone as far as morals are concerned.
On the other side we have a group of people that are about what he is.... except they want to destroy the country.
so I'm voting for the morally questionable president who has been very much a defender of the constitution. In fact, if I were liberal in my views, I would vote for Trump simply because of fidelity to the constitution.
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No, I think it’s a fair question - what matters to you more in a politician, the character of the person or the policies they propose for the nation. Of course someone who possess both would be better, but as we saw in 2016, that isn’t always an option. As someone who was an adult during Carter’s tenure I feel this actually is a very important concept. Carter was an honorable man who sincerely meant well but we have yet to see as inept of a president in my lifetime, and hopefully won’t ever.
So, Trump v Carter
Sad to say, it would easily be Trump.
I thought Clinton was a pig of a human, not to mention having a shrew for a wife, and I didn’t always agree with some of his values, but I voted for him in his second term because he was a good president.
Trump v Clinton
Ugh - it’s a toss-up
Obama was hands down a more presentable president than Trump - like, massively so. I do miss Obama’s respectable disposition. However, on policy, holy crap, I doubt I agree with anything other than Cuba, Denali, and overtime exemption caps.
Trump v Obama
Again, easily Trump.
And Trump v Warren, Sanders, Beto, Hillary, Booker, Harris, Biden.......? You guessed it, Trump in all his crass glory.
So, I guess it’s fair to say, I lean towards candidate A.
But we have no idea what policies you support based on that and this is why I have a problem with most republicans i meet in real life.
I ask them what they support and they name mostly Democratic policies. They prove to be one issue voters because of abortion or immigration, and even then they tend to be more on the fence that straight up on one side or the other.
I don't think a question like this can be answered in a vacuum, even if you accept the premise that this question is not based on any particular current candidate (which strains credulity).
I've never encountered a politician with whom I agree 100% of the time. I also can't think of any politician with whom I've disagreed with 100% of the time. So asking someone a binary question when the he/she doesn't know with which policies the despicable person candidate agrees with him/her and by how far off they are you can't possibly weigh the two factors. The question also presupposes no other factors outside of personal integrity and policy viewpoints.
so I'm voting for the morally questionable president who has been very much a defender of the constitution. In fact, if I were liberal in my views, I would vote for Trump simply because of fidelity to the constitution.
Trump is not a defender of The Constitution, far from it. Did you not hear him take a dump on Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, just a few days ago? While defending his original intent to host the G7 summit at his Florida Doral resort, President Trump referred to the emoluments clause as "phony."
Any time The Constitution does not support tyrant Trump getting what he wants, he will always choose to go against it.
I wouldn't trust him regarding gun confiscation, either. If the coward with bone spurs should ever get all the power he wants, he'll make sure no one has guns because he is scared poopless that someone may shoot him. He really wants to be leader for life, and/or like the Chinese and Russian leaders he admires as an all-powerful leader he'd like suspend free speech, too.
He would sell this country down the river for an extra billion bucks in his pocket.
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(I'm putting this in the general P&OC section because it doesn't pertain to any actual candidates or elections, if it still belongs in the Elections sub-forum please move it)
As a general rule, would you vote for:
Candidate A: Shares your views and supports your issues, but is personally unethical, sleazy, or otherwise extremely disagreeable or despicable
Candidate B: A decent, ethical person, but they are on the opposite side of many issues as you.
These are your only two choices. No third parties, no write-ins, no abstaining.
I have been labeled a deplorable, an irredeemable, a racist, stupid, smelly Walmart shopper.The left work overtime to do the same to Trump. I vote Trump for love of Country and his love for ALL AMERICANS. GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP KAG.2020.
(I'm putting this in the general P&OC section because it doesn't pertain to any actual candidates or elections, if it still belongs in the Elections sub-forum please move it)
As a general rule, would you vote for:
Candidate A: Shares your views and supports your issues, but is personally unethical, sleazy, or otherwise extremely disagreeable or despicable
Candidate B: A decent, ethical person, but they are on the opposite side of many issues as you.
These are your only two choices. No third parties, no write-ins, no abstaining.
(I'm putting this in the general P&OC section because it doesn't pertain to any actual candidates or elections, if it still belongs in the Elections sub-forum please move it)
As a general rule, would you vote for:
Candidate A: Shares your views and supports your issues, but is personally unethical, sleazy, or otherwise extremely disagreeable or despicable
Candidate B: A decent, ethical person, but they are on the opposite side of many issues as you.
These are your only two choices. No third parties, no write-ins, no abstaining.
You know what's kind of sad?
Ten years ago, no one would even have thought to ask this question. Because it really never occurred to people that we could possibly have a presidential candidate so openly unethical, corrupt, and despicable as Trump has shown himself to be.
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