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Old 10-19-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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No, that wasn't my source. I am separating the border jumpers from the visa over stayers because at least the visa over stayers came here legally not so with the border jumpers. Doesn't matter if illegal immigration from Mexico supposedly peaked within your time frame. Mexicans are still the largest number of illegal aliens that were border jumpers. All Latino countries combined including Mexico have the largest number of visa over stayers also.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data...ation/state/US
You source gives the total amounts of illegal immigrants, no yearly trends like I did.

Did you know the US gives visas to over 10 million people a year? You might say Why? Tourists visas cost $160, $190 for work visas, permanent residence visa even more expensive. This is non refundable, millions more get rejected. That's a good source of money.

You are making a big mistake by separating visa overstayers. The numbers are probably higher than you imagine. Millions of people have visas all over the world, they can easily move to the US if they wish.

Canada is the number one for visa overstay.
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Old 10-19-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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Hate to tell you, but even if a Dem becomes Prez, our number one enemy will still be parked on our southern border. (Of course, many Dems are dedicated to the destruction of America, so that Dem President will likely view Mexico as an ALLY in the quest to turn America into a second or third world nation. Social justice, you see.....)

It’s amazing how many people hate their own country. Or have their heads buried in the sand.

Serious question for those who love Mexico so much: why haven’t you moved there? It’s not difficult to do......
IIRC, you just have to prove you have income of $1200 a month.

There are plenty of Americans retired in Mexico. And i personally know a few guys who have been down on the Baja for 25 years, building houses.
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Old 10-19-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Good thing we have the wall to protect us from the evil, dangerous Mexicans. Oh wait. . .
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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IIRC, you just have to prove you have income of $1200 a month.

There are plenty of Americans retired in Mexico. And i personally know a few guys who have been down on the Baja for 25 years, building houses.
Moving to an utterly failed state isn't something that I would do.
But ymmv.
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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You source gives the total amounts of illegal immigrants, no yearly trends like I did.

Did you know the US gives visas to over 10 million people a year? You might say Why? Tourists visas cost $160, $190 for work visas, permanent residence visa even more expensive. This is non refundable, millions more get rejected. That's a good source of money.

You are making a big mistake by separating visa overstayers. The numbers are probably higher than you imagine. Millions of people have visas all over the world, they can easily move to the US if they wish.

Canada is the number one for visa overstay.
If you just want to take that country alone then that might be true. However, it is all Latino countries combined that make up the highest number of visa over stayers. Those people are a burden to us not the Canadians. At any rate border jumpers are far worse as they never went through the proper channels and we have no idea what their purpose is here.
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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If you just want to take that country alone then that might be true. However, it is all Latino countries combined that make up the highest number of visa over stayers. Those people are a burden to us not the Canadians. At any rate border jumpers are far worse as they never went through the proper channels and we have no idea what their purpose is here.
We know exactly what their purpose is, they want a job, something that is denied to them thanks to current trade and financial policies.

Visa overstays make up to 50% of illegals. But it seems you are ok with Canadians, British, French, etc.
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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When it comes to foreign policy, Mexico tops Russia and even China as our arch enemy.
Consider:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mexican...on-11571404233

(Check out the photos in the article..........unreal).

This is what we are up against. THIS is the country whose express aim is to send as many of its worst citizens into our country, legally OR illegally.

In fact, there is not a single redeeming quality about Mexico. Not one. Unfortunately, it just happens to be on our southern border.
At some point, we are going to have to "DEAL" with Mexico.
We need to do it in the harshest, strongest way possible.
ASAP.
To be honest, the American citizen's true enemy is the FBI and CIA who have unlimited power, and could have stopped many of the bad things that have happened if they actually did their job, but instead, they are just spying on us for their elite puppet masters to make sure we are staying in line.
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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We know exactly what their purpose is, they want a job, something that is denied to them thanks to current trade and financial policies.

Visa overstays make up to 50% of illegals. But it seems you are ok with Canadians, British, French, etc.
Don’t forget about the Reconquest.....
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:32 PM
 
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Yawn. Another loony conspiracy theory.
Thank you. We certainly have an issue with illegals coming here. And yes, Mexico is where many of them come from. That isn't the only place. We have people from other countries coming here and overstaying their visas. And there are people from other parts of the Western Hemisphere coming here illegally.

Mexico does not have nukes pointed at us. Mexico isn't trying to drop bombs on America. When I go to bed at night, I don't think "oh man, the Mexican government is going to get us". To me, this is a loony conspiracy theory.
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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We know exactly what their purpose is, they want a job, something that is denied to them thanks to current trade and financial policies.

Visa overstays make up to 50% of illegals. But it seems you are ok with Canadians, British, French, etc.
Yet Mexico offered these migrants from Central America jobs on their way to invade the USA. No one has a right to a job by breaking our immigration laws and taking them from our own citizens by working for less and committing felony ID theft or tax evasion. I suggest you don't make false accusations of me. I'm not ok with any visa over stayers but the fact is that most of them are from Latino countries combined and they are usually the poor who end up being a burden to our country just like those who came here illegally.

As I also said, at least we know something about the visa over stayers while we know nothing about the border jumpers. Many of them are criminals and those from known terrorist countries to.
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