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While i want to agree with the sentiment that parents should be accountable, At the end of the day no amount of discipline, education will prevent anything like this from happening; Why should the parent face consequences when they've done all they can?
She had the firearms locked up in a cabinet. The kid broke into it. He wanted a firearm, he was going to do what he could to get one.
A responsible adult KNOWING the intentions of their offspring should have secured the firearms. "Locking them in a cabinet" is not sufficient. Trigger locks are inexpensive and effective. They render a firearm useless without the key.
While i want to agree with the sentiment that parents should be accountable, At the end of the day no amount of discipline, education will prevent anything like this from happening; Why should the parent face consequences when they've done all they can?
Well, that's the issue. She did not do all that she could. She could have, and should have, removed the firearms from the home.
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Originally Posted by Wartrace
A responsible adult KNOWING the intentions of their offspring should have secured the firearms. "Locking them in a cabinet" is not sufficient. Trigger locks are inexpensive and effective. They render a firearm useless without the key.
I agree. Most gun cabinets have a glass window and are easily broken in to. When someone living in the house has threatened murder, suicide, and has fired a gun in the house - a person should take more extreme measures in securing the firearms or completely removing them from the home.
You'll have a hard time finding anyone who supports second amendment freedoms more than I do. However, with those freedoms comes a long series of responsibilities. That said and commenting from a minimal information perspcetive like all of us, given all that was going on with her son locking guns and ammo in some type of cabinet wasn't good enough and she should be held accountable.
Agreed. Personally feel that we should make stricter liabilities for gun ownership rather than this nonsense about restrictions at Point of Sale.
If you don't secure your weapons and lose track of them, there can be consequences.
Two of her charges are related to her not ensuring her child 'took his meds'.
Not quite sure how a woman is supposed to wrangle a big teenage boy & force-medicate him but the other issue is that ALL school shooters have been medicated & there IS supporting science that has found that psychotropic meds could be CAUSATIVE in these incidents.
He threatened to shoot up the school and to kill someone and he discharged a firearm in the house. Nevertheless, she failed to take any action to keep the guns away from him.
She's the adult who is supposed to provide a safe environment for this child. I can't see how she isn't at least partly responsible not for what the kid did, but for creating the conditions in which he was able to do it.
You'll have a hard time finding anyone who supports second amendment freedoms more than I do. However, with those freedoms comes a long series of responsibilities. That said and commenting from a minimal information perspcetive like all of us, given all that was going on with her son locking guns and ammo in some type of cabinet wasn't good enough and she should be held accountable.
The kid should be held accountable. In some cases minors of a young age will not listen to authority short of being half beaten to death. That is also against the law.I believe many European countries consider you an adult at 14...……..
While i want to agree with the sentiment that parents should be accountable, At the end of the day no amount of discipline, education will prevent anything like this from happening; Why should the parent face consequences when they've done all they can?
Because she didn't do all she could. She should have had zero guns in her home - locked or otherwise.
If he was going to get them 'anyway' - at least she really would have done all that she could to prevent it.
Not to mention that if it's true she let him stop taking medication, that's pretty bad.
That's what people are demanding, that parents whose child shoots up a school be criminally charged.
A couple of those charges will likely be dropped.
A lot of them have to be dropped. Big time civil rights violations. Official Oppression, loss of Qualified Immunity.
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