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View Poll Results: What is the primary cause of the high gas prices in California
California policies and gas taxes 72 83.72%
Oil Company operations 1 1.16%
Both CA policies and Oil Company operations equally 7 8.14%
Other cause 6 6.98%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-22-2019, 04:57 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Yet we have more jobs than any other state. The job creators love us.
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The size of the state wouldn't have anything to do with that though, right?
or the fact that they have, by far, the highest population of any state
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Old 10-22-2019, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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An investigation into insane legislation? Really???

Off the chart insane liberal/SOVIET lunacy for all to see.

Strange times.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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An investigation into insane legislation? Really???

Off the chart insane liberal/SOVIET lunacy for all to see.

Strange times.
They will still find a way to blame Trump.
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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It's not the gas taxes because those did not appear 3 weeks ago. Its clearly the policy of not allowing imported gasoline during refinery shutdown events. That's really the problem.
Gas prices in CA has been the highest in US most of the year - part of that IS the taxes. But the last time it spiked like it has recently was April-May, which was last required changeover in blends. The recent spike has been attributed to refinery shutdowns. https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019...se-california/
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California’s gas prices have hit a five-year high. This on top of the fact that our gas prices are already $1.30 -$1.50 more per gallon than in other states.

“The problem now is four refineries in the last week have had outages,” Dehaan said.

Four of the 15 refineries in California are undergoing maintenance. Dehaan says it’s usually it’s only one or two at a time. Combine that with high taxes and a carbon tax, and that’s why California gas has jumped to over $4.00 a gallon.
Technically, CA will allow gas from out of state but it must meet CA standard which is unique - so not a ban on import but a regulatory "in effect" ban since no refinery elsewhere currently has the capability of making the required blend
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“We’re prevented from importing gasoline that doesn’t meet our state’s strict standards, which really could provide assistance in times like this. that’s sometimes why we are referred to as a fuel island here in California,”
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Gas prices are outrageous in the entire west and worse in California. They say refinery maintenance issues and such but this has been going on for almost a year now.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Double standard:

Right wing complains about California gas prices: Good

Left wing complains about California gas prices: Bad
It's not the right wing. It's one or two clowns here on C and D trolling.
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Old 10-23-2019, 03:33 AM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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Double standard:

Right wing complains about California gas prices: Good

Left wing complains about California gas prices: Bad

That stupid governor can't figure anything out, can't he?
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:31 AM
 
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Yesterday, California Governor Newsom asked for an investigation of gas prices in California - https://www.apnews.com/e38ef64a149e483b921f33b537677136


Here is similar investigation call almost exactly 6 months ago - https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...igh-gas-prices


Other than who is investigating, what has changed in the last 6 months. Both times the Governor called for these investigations, he essentially blamed "big oil" for “misleading and overcharging customers" and "inappropriate industry practices" as causing the high prices before even beginning the investigation. The new report referenced appears to be the report from the previous investigation of industry practices that said “does not have any evidence that gasoline retailers fixed prices or engaged in false advertising”.

The timing of these is also somewhat suspicious - These investigations seem to be roughly aligned with required blend switchovers between summer and winter blends. Are they really interested in what is causing the issue and what could bring down gas prices or are they just looking for corporate scapegoat?

To me, it seems pretty obvious that much of the price difference is driven because of policies that the California Energy Commission, CARB, the CA legislature and the CA governor have forced on the state's drivers but maybe there are other factors driving it. Is this a sincere effort to see what is causing these high prices or is it really a political ploy to deflect complaints about the high gas prices by blaming "big oil" and not CA Policy? Is politics driving the purpose and timing of these investigations - What do you think?
By NOT knowing already, only shows how utterly unqualified to be governor he really is.
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:38 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Cross the border into Reno and its $1 cheaper. Wonder why.
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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or the fact that they have, by far, the highest population of any state
People tend to go and stay where they can find a job. We win.
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