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Old 11-08-2019, 04:58 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Turns out he wasn't talking about "what he heard", he was talking about what he read in the New York Times, he had no new information to add of his own. Of course, that's why they did it in secret and only leaked bits to make you think it was damning testimony.

It's the kind of dishonest BS you'd expect in a partisan coup attempt.
Nope, that's simply quote mining and presenting out of context.

Taylor learned about the quid pro quo directly from discussions with Sondland and Morrison, according to his testimony.

Impeachment is not a coup.
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:15 AM
 
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Ugh, Morrison told Taylor that Sondland told him (Taylor). His words, not the mining of any quote, just the testimony. Ahem, from the hearing transcript, that Mr Schiff has continued to misrepresent by his quote mining and paraphrasing.


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“So, if nobody in the Ukrainian government is aware of a military hold at the time of the Trump-Zelensky call, then, as a matter of law and as a matter of fact, there can be no quid pro quo, based on military aid,” Ratcliffe, a former federal prosecutor, said. “I just want to be real clear that, again, as of July 25th, you have no knowledge of a quid pro quo involving military aid.”

“July 25th is a week after the hold was put on the security assistance,” Taylor testified. “And July 25th, they had a conversation between the two presidents, where it was not discussed.”

“And to your knowledge, nobody in the Ukrainian government was aware of the hold?” Ratcliffe asked.

“That is correct,” Taylor responded.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/06...25-phone-call/
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Nope, that's simply quote mining and presenting out of context.

Taylor learned about the quid pro quo directly from discussions with Sondland and Morrison, according to his testimony.

Impeachment is not a coup.
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:24 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Ugh, Morrison told Taylor that Sondland told him (Taylor). His words, not the mining of any quote, just the testimony. Ahem, from the hearing transcript, that Mr Schiff has continued to misrepresent by his quote mining and paraphrasing.




https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/06...25-phone-call/
The NYT times bit was quote mining and out of context.

Yes, Taylor testified that Morrison told him about the quid pro quo, and that Morrison said he (Morrison) heard it from Sondland.

Why would we not expect communication to flow "down the chain" in that manner? It's quite normal, in my experience, both in the business world and in the military/government world.

Taylor is not the only one claiming quid pro quo. Taylor's testimony is not a "smoking gun" by any stretch, but it is more corroboration of the overall claim.
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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So it went from a threat to actually doing it now. Nothing was withheld
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Biden announced his candidacy April 25th of this year. Hmmmm.
Strange that his announcement coincides with Trumps interest in corruption in Ukraine, where was he in 2017 and 2018.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So it went from a threat to actually doing it now. Nothing was withheld
Delayed several months but not permanently withheld, keep in mind this was a country at war with Russia. The funds expired at the end of the fiscal year September 30 so he had no choice, if he allowed them to expire he would have a real problem. The funds were created years ago, why did he wait until 2019 to worry about corruption.
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Old 11-08-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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Delayed several months but not permanently withheld, keep in mind this was a country at war with Russia. The funds expired at the end of the fiscal year September 30 so he had no choice, if he allowed them to expire he would have a real problem. The funds were created years ago, why did he wait until 2019 to worry about corruption.
The white house didn't even authorize the release of the hold on the funds, the NSC released them anyway in defiance of the hold.
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Old 11-08-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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Hearsay is still just hearsay, the farther from the source the less reliable. Hearsay also does not stand the test of the law. Then this is not about the law, is it? All politics.

Won't garner 66 votes in the Senate.
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The NYT times bit was quote mining and out of context.

Yes, Taylor testified that Morrison told him about the quid pro quo, and that Morrison said he (Morrison) heard it from Sondland.

Why would we not expect communication to flow "down the chain" in that manner? It's quite normal, in my experience, both in the business world and in the military/government world.

Taylor is not the only one claiming quid pro quo. Taylor's testimony is not a "smoking gun" by any stretch, but it is more corroboration of the overall claim.
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Old 11-08-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Bumpity, bump in the dark of the night.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-hunter-biden/

Impeachment Witness Bill Taylor Led Ukraine Delegation for Group Advised by Hunter Biden
Aaron Klein 28 Oct 2019



Acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor, who provided key testimony to the Democrats’ controversial impeachment inquiry last week, led an election observation delegation in Ukraine earlier this year for a George Soros-funded organization that at the time boasted Hunter Biden on its small chairman’s council.

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Well lookie here...
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Old 11-08-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Ugh, Morrison told Taylor that Sondland told him (Taylor). His words, not the mining of any quote, just the testimony.
Yep. And then Sondland said - yep that is what happened.

Oops
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