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View Poll Results: Do you believe affirmative action is needed anymore
Yes 2 7.14%
No 26 92.86%
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Old 10-26-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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Amen.

Contrary to popular belief, most Asian Americans don't oppose affirmative action.
Exactly. The majority of POC, especially many of us who are recent, realize that the U.S. has created a mess when it comes to race and this is an imperfect way of fixing it.
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Old 10-26-2019, 04:08 PM
 
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Not necessarily.
Aside from a few physical features that the Nazis rather exaggerated to be Jewish, even they had to look at other factors(such as documentation) to isolate Jews from the rest of population. That's because Jews(Ashkenazim and Sephardics at least) are white in phenotype and even genetically as DNA tests reveal, and the most known from Albert Einstein to Mark Zuckerberg are white. There is even a thread on this very forum concerning the possibility of Christopher Columbus was a Jew. The implication from that is he had the ability to as much just live as a regular Italian white man, during a period of expulsion of all Jews in Spain and Portugal.
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Old 10-26-2019, 04:26 PM
 
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First of all, "Affirmative Action" is an Orwellian euphemism used to make Affirmative Action seem less like what it really is, unearned preferential treatment given to blacks and females.

Females receive Affirmative Action because they are both the voting majority and, as a group, selfish enough to demand it.

Blacks receive Affirmative Action because even after half a century of special advantages they continue to come in dead-ass last.

This consistent underperforming by blacks presents a tremendous threat to the white oppressor narrative that all social justice is predicated upon.

This is a VERY good summary of the entire problem with affirmative action, whether it is in college admissions or hiring in both the public and private sectors. The hiring preferences given to minorities (in other words, discrimination against whites) in the public sector has reached absurd levels. I have direct experience with this, and have also seen and heard plenty of evidence over the years to back this up.
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Old 10-26-2019, 06:58 PM
 
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This is a VERY good summary of the entire problem with affirmative action, whether it is in college admissions or hiring in both the public and private sectors. The hiring preferences given to minorities (in other words, discrimination against whites) in the public sector has reached absurd levels. I have direct experience with this, and have also seen and heard plenty of evidence over the years to back this up.
NO. White women benefit the most from affirmative action. Whites benefit from it but so many just don’t want anyone else to have it. Common story. There wasn’t an issue when basically whites alone benefited from welfare programs. They only started complaining when they became accessible to minorities in the 1960s. Most whites have never been opposed to these social programs when it comes to them. Total hypocrisy.
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Old 10-26-2019, 07:22 PM
 
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NO. White women benefit the most from affirmative action. Whites benefit from it but so many just don’t want anyone else to have it. Common story. There wasn’t an issue when basically whites alone benefited from welfare programs. They only started complaining when they became accessible to minorities in the 1960s. Most whites have never been opposed to these social programs when it comes to them. Total hypocrisy.
Exactly. I presented a study from Harvard that concluded that the main reason that the US does not have a social welfare system as Europe does is due to race. It concluded that that whites thought that minorities would be the ones who disproportionately would benefit from it.....otherwise they would support it if it were whites who were the main beneficiaries of it.

One can leverage that finding to conclude that AA is the same way. They have no problem with white women as the main benefactor.....but have a problem when its blacks.
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Old 10-26-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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Exactly. I presented a study from Harvard that concluded that the main reason that the US does not have a social welfare system as Europe does is due to race. It concluded that that whites thought that minorities would be the ones who disproportionately would benefit from it.....otherwise they would support it if it were whites who were the main beneficiaries of it.

One can leverage that finding to conclude that AA is the same way. They have no problem with white women as the main benefactor.....but have a problem when its blacks.
Exactly. Here’s more evidence of their bias.

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In another piece about affirmative action that was published Sunday, Vox.com reports that white people's support of merit-based admissions varies depending on which people they consider their competition. That report quotes a 2013 study done by University of Miami sociology professor Frank L. Samson. He found that white Californians were a lot more likely to emphasize the importance of GPA to college admissions when they perceived their competitors as black. But white Californians who were told that Asians accounted for 12 percent of the state's population but 40 percent of the students in the University of California system, didn't think GPA should matter as much.
https://www.nola.com/news/politics/a...1797730d8.html

So it’s not about affirmative action. It’s about whites having the advantage. They want all of these programs to benefit them and them alone.
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Old 10-26-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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Exactly. Here’s more evidence of their bias.



https://www.nola.com/news/politics/a...1797730d8.html

So it’s not about affirmative action. It’s about whites having the advantage. They want all of these programs to benefit them and them alone.
blacks are 5% of the ivy league and does blacks there are African with big IQs
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Old 10-27-2019, 12:44 AM
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Another threat to liberals is how well Jews perform despite millennia of persecution, slavery, expulsions, and attempted extermination (which was half-way accomplished). It shows that with the right life choices and values, one can overcome the absolute worst prejudice.
I have never understood this need to compare black people to Jewish people especially considering the black community has never been helped the way the jewish community was.

Also, the slavery of the Jewish people ended 1700 years ago. Slavery of Africa technically ended 150 years ago. But discrimination, racism, and so on still hasnt ended.
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:25 AM
 
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I have never understood this need to compare black people to Jewish people especially considering the black community has never been helped the way the jewish community was.

Also, the slavery of the Jewish people ended 1700 years ago. Slavery of Africa technically ended 150 years ago. But discrimination, racism, and so on still hasnt ended.
They use it as a weapon to discredit blacks. That is the need. People see blacks as inferior and they will search to find juxtapositions to demonstrate that. Jews were an oppressed group....but doing better than blacks.zthus, blacks can’t blame oppression for their problems. Hence, discrediting the black explanation.
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Old 10-27-2019, 06:32 AM
 
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I have never understood this need to compare black people to Jewish people especially considering the black community has never been helped the way the jewish community was.

Also, the slavery of the Jewish people ended 1700 years ago. Slavery of Africa technically ended 150 years ago. But discrimination, racism, and so on still hasnt ended.
Desperate attempt to justify the retention of prejudice... and on that poster’s part, the poster is trying to play oppression olympics. Pathetic really.
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