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Old 10-25-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Clearly they're trying to divert attention from the Trump impeachment.

But I say, let 'em have at it.
That's exactly what this is. Even the Trump crowd knows it LOL.

But as you said, let 'em have at it. I just ask the OP to bump this thread and get back to us when something actually comes of it.

Haha
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Old 10-25-2019, 07:31 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Well, it is what it is.


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Old 10-25-2019, 07:36 AM
 
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Let us see what happens.



Say, will the targets of this new criminal investigation be allowed to have attorneys appear in front of the grand jury to question any witnesses? Will the grand jury proceedings be public, transparent?


No and no. That is not how investigations work. Same for the House investigation in closed committee.
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Old 10-25-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Beaver County
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Rug roh. Look at the timing Scooby! I see a clue.
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Old 10-25-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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You have it backwards. Don't you remember Hillary saying "if he gets elected, we're all going to hang", .
I actually don't remember that. I do remember Trump promising to "lock her up", which he never did because after years of investigations and inquiries she has been totally exonerated:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...-emails-051380

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/u...-benghazi.html
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Old 10-25-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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Let us see what happens.



Say, will the targets of this new criminal investigation be allowed to have attorneys appear in front of the grand jury to question any witnesses? Will the grand jury proceedings be public, transparent?


No and no. That is not how investigations work. Same for the House investigation in closed committee.
Grand Juries issue Subpoenas ..... Adam Schiff and the House Dems issue unenforceable Letters that have zero to do with any court and can't be enforced by any court (or argued against) - But you already knew that.


What's your best guess Legal Eagle -- Will Barr & Durham convene a Regular Grand Jury OR a Special Grand Jury? (I'm assuming you know the differences and the Statues).
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Old 10-25-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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Oh dang! Bust out the popcorn!

The Mueller hoax has come full circle.

Brennan, Clapper, Comey and some of the Mueller team gotta be sweating heavily and sh*tting their pants about now.

This is gonna be fascinating as hell to watch go down.
Mueller pointedly said that his investigation did not exonerate Trump. No one has ever appeared smart repeating things that come out of the president`s mouth.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exonerate
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:05 AM
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Obama is going to be serving some serious jail time. He'll have company too to play checkers with.
Although the biggest scandal in history, bozo will not go to jail.
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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William Barr opening an investigation into his own agency, we are truly in crazy land. I always thought facts were required to open a criminal investigation, this is new to me.
The Mueller Report could be called "his own Agency" - that's not what AG Barr and later Durham are investigating. The FISA Court is NOT "his own Agency" and neither is the CIA and Foreign actors in Ukraine , Italy, Australia and the UK.

How can any of this be "new" to you? - you might need to looks at better news sources.

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sorry Goodnight, the facts have been there for months for all to see. your refusal to see them is your issue.

the fact is Obama administration people ran spy ops against the Trump campaign. they did so for the purpose of manufacturing evidence that didn't exist. period. that is very very illegal.
IF proven (and the paper trails are long) then it would be very Illegal - that's the point of looking at the Origins of "Russia-Russia-Russia a.k.a. The Dirty Dossier. One thing I'm sure of - former President Obama (even if implicated) will never see a Court of Law.

The Mueller Team took the Dirty Dossier as FACT and never looked at the origins of it.
That was a problem for AG Barr, so he announced in the hearing on Mueller that he was going to look at the Origins ... which begin with the FISA Courts. AG Horowitz was already looking at the FISA Courts and Origins, but he doesn't have the same powers as the Attorney General of the United States.

I actually expect the first bomb to drop will be in the Court where the Flynn case is.
New filings yesterday and they are NOT pretty for the Mueller Team.

Keep in mind that the Durham/Barr investigations came long before the Kangaroo Court of Impeachment based on an Anonymous "whistleblower" who freely admits Bias and 2nd/3rd hand information.
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Grand Juries issue Subpoenas ..... Adam Schiff and the House Dems issue unenforceable Letters that have zero to do with any court and can't be enforced by any court (or argued against) - But you already knew that.


What's your best guess Legal Eagle -- Will Barr & Durham convene a Regular Grand Jury OR a Special Grand Jury? (I'm assuming you know the differences and the Statues).
Congressional subpoenas are legally enforceable, and federal criminal statue permits them to seek consent from U.S. Attorney of D.C. to bring criminal charges for failure to comply. This puts private citizens like Rudy Giuliani at greater risk than say, a federal official, against whom the U.S. Attorney is unlikely to sign off on an investigation.

This article gives a good primer.
Explainer: How powerful are Congress subpoenas, contempt citations?
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