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Old 10-25-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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When it comes to towing torque is the ONLY issue...Didn't watch that video did you? The electric F150 towed a train..(over a million pounds)
You can't tow anything very far when you can't readily replace the expended energy down the street.
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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Torque isn't the issue.
What, is physics a liberal conspiracy now?

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You can't tow anything very far when you can't readily replace the expended energy down the street.
Posted this while I was typing. The battery/charging time issues are just a matter of time. For things like 18 wheelers they can support banks of batteries to get them much further on a charge. For consumer towing most people don't need to tow things 1000s of miles on a regular basis.
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Then what is the issue? You can keep your ICE for all I care. Well informed and educated people will start to embrace EVs as a better alternative to ICEs. You want to keep outdated technology for the sake of it? You can’t stand that people are excited about embracing this technology. As the article states no one is forcing you. Market demand for EVs is increasing year by year. At this point you are fighting consumer preferences and demand.
Go back 120 years and I'm sure there were similar discussions with folks reluctant to give up their horse and buggy...The automobile proponents argument was likely...No s**t to pitch, no hay to haul.
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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What, is physics a liberal conspiracy now?



Posted this while I was typing. The battery/charging time issues are just a matter of time. For things like 18 wheeler they can support Banks of batteries to get them much further on a charge.
What about "torque isn't the issue" confuses you and sanspeur?
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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Banks of batteries take up banks of payload volume.

And millions and millions of banks of massive wind turbines vibrating the grounds adjacent to your neighborhoods. And even batteries to store their output.

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Old 10-25-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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Electric engines are faster, quieter, and more responsive than ICEs. Better across the board, better performance, more efficient, less expensive to run, and take less wear and tear over time.

0-60 in 1.9 seconds currently
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Why do you car nuts need to go so fast. They should be limited to 0-60 in no less than 6 seconds, nobody needs to go that fast that quickly.

That 1.9 seconds is the speed for the new Roadster that is yet to come out into production. Expected to cost $200-250K.


The S, X and 3 models of Tesla have 0-60 in the 3-5.3 second range. There are some with things like Ludicrous mode that are incorporated in some models that make it go faster a bit. A new 3 motor Plaid S model is in testing stages.

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Old 10-25-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What, is physics a liberal conspiracy now?



Posted this while I was typing. The battery/charging time issues are just a matter of time. For things like 18 wheelers they can support banks of batteries to get them much further on a charge. For consumer towing most people don't need to tow things 1000s of miles on a regular basis.
There are fast charging stations being built now...Petro Canada (an oil company) is building fast charging facilities every 200 km from coast to coast across Canada, and they are becoming common in every town in between.
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:16 AM
 
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Then you have to mine the lithium.

And dig up every street and parking lot in the country to lay and upgrade power cable.
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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That 1. seconds is the speed for the new Roadster that is yet to come out into production. Expected to cost $200-250K.


The S, X and 3 models of Tesla have 0-60 in the 3-5.3 second range. There are some with things like Ludicrous mode that are incorporated in some models that make it go faster a bit. A new 3 motor Plaid S model is in testing stages.
Tesla Model S P100D: 0-60mph in 2.5 seconds.
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Cash for clunkers was not a bust. I know many people who traded old crappy vehicles for new ones and were very happy with the program. The #1 vehicle traded in at the time was the Ford Exploder, the roll over king.
Yeah, talk to car dealers. It killed car sells for 6-9 months afterwards. Everyone thinking of buying a new car advanced their purchase and then no one bought for the months after.

We saw the same thing with houses and the 1st time home buyer program at the same time. It killed sales after the program ended. No buyers which broke the chain people moving up or down.

No extra houses or cars were sold because of the programs. It was just a temporary spurt in sales that did more damage than good.
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