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Old 10-26-2019, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Who cares what country a weapon originated? It's the immigrants bombing and committing the crimes not the natives. It's hard to control the smuggling of contraband, but easier to control the movement and existence of foreigners in your country. If you have a harmonious low violence, high trust nation of people like native Swedes had and no foreigners, there wouldn't be the problem of contraband and gun and grenade violence.
Well the problem is if it's Swedish criminals buying it from the Balkans then the Swedish biker gangs have them and while Swedes aren't necessarily a violent people today its not like their isn't any history of violent swedes dating back hundreds of years till they became a modern nation in the 1900s. Anders Brievik was from even safer Norway? He killed 77 people and injured over 300 which is more murders than the country had in the last 5 years, and if it happened in Sweden would have double the murder rate.The fact that the weapons are in Sweden matters a lot more to police officers than which gang had it at the time. So the hand-grenade problem while the migrants are certainly using it the most, is still a problem that the Swedish police had dealt with for the last 10-20 years.
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Another source tells a somewhat different story:

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Neuding’s number for 2018 suggests about one or two detonated hand grenades per month. If the entire chart is right, there’s clearly been a long-term increase in hand-grenade explosions, but it peaked in 2016 and has been declining ever since. In particular, Malmö, which is supposed to be ground zero for this stuff, had zero explosions in 2018.

The explosions are mostly the work of immigrant gangs fighting turf wars over their smuggling operations, but that doesn’t seem to have increased much either. https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...ons-in-sweden/
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:24 PM
 
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Sad to see how once safe EU nations have become crime zones due to massive immigration.
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:59 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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They brought this upon themselves. The Swedes (and other naïve liberal European countries) are experiencing what is called winning the Darwin Award. They will be statistically extinct in about 3 generations. Outnumbered in their own country.
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Old 10-27-2019, 12:30 AM
 
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If that is the case the in Swedish immigrant enclaves, criminality is still fairly mild compared with U.S. crime hubs. Last year the famously multicultural Swedish city of Malmö had a homicide rate of 3 per 100,000, far lower than the 28 per 100,000 rate in Chicago.https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/...rump-fox-news/

I personally would be safer walking in the street of Malmo than Chicago
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Old 10-27-2019, 01:29 AM
 
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They brought this upon themselves. The Swedes (and other naïve liberal European countries) are experiencing what is called winning the Darwin Award. They will be statistically extinct in about 3 generations. Outnumbered in their own country.
But how have they brought it upon themselves, the people? The government is doing it whether the people want it or not, in Sweden, Europe and America. You're not even really allowed to oppose it. It is now basically heresy now to oppose mass, global immigration into Western countries or to criticize multiculturalism and diversity, and you'll receive the treatment of a heretic if you oppose it.
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Old 10-27-2019, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
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How about a big picture view? And I mean literally a nice big picture that you can mouse-over and see some sobering numbers:

http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...hs-by-country/

Have a look, and then come back to me and tell me again what country has a better handle on violence. Granted, this is not about bombs but guns kill a lot more people in the US then bombs in all of Europe combined. And of course the number of gun deaths in not a single European country is anywhere near as high as in the US. That is true for suicide, homicide and accidents,
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Old 10-27-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If that is the case the in Swedish immigrant enclaves, criminality is still fairly mild compared with U.S. crime hubs. Last year the famously multicultural Swedish city of Malmö had a homicide rate of 3 per 100,000, far lower than the 28 per 100,000 rate in Chicago.https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/...rump-fox-news/

I personally would be safer walking in the street of Malmo than Chicago
Depends on where in Chicago. Most of the gun violence is concentrated in 5/25 Police Districts where gangs dominate. Most shooters and their victims are black, descendants of slaves whose arrival in the US predates major waves of immigration from Europe and elsewhere.

It is reasonable to assume people in these neighborhoods have the highest rate of being armed, legal and otherwise.

Typically, no one sees or knows anything. People protect family members or are afraid to snitch due the very real risk of retaliation.

Chicago had 55 million overnight visitors last year. They spend enormous sums on lodging, dining, shopping and entertainment. No reason for these overnight visitors to go to the 5 most violent areas in the city.
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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How about a big picture view? And I mean literally a nice big picture that you can mouse-over and see some sobering numbers:

http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...hs-by-country/

Have a look, and then come back to me and tell me again what country has a better handle on violence. Granted, this is not about bombs but guns kill a lot more people in the US then bombs in all of Europe combined. And of course the number of gun deaths in not a single European country is anywhere near as high as in the US. That is true for suicide, homicide and accidents,
And those pulling the trigger in the US, are far less likely to be immigrants, let alone of the Muslim faith.

Here are the top US 25 cities by murder rate.
https://bismarcktribune.com/news/nat...c065352.html#5

Chicago comes in at #24/25 with #25 having the fewest homicides among the top 25

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Old 10-27-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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But how have they brought it upon themselves, the people? The government is doing it whether the people want it or not, in Sweden, Europe and America. You're not even really allowed to oppose it. It is now basically heresy now to oppose mass, global immigration into Western countries or to criticize multiculturalism and diversity, and you'll receive the treatment of a heretic if you oppose it.
Merkel forced it on them.
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