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What laws would prevent the house from receiving the unredacted portions of the report that the DOJ was defending.
The Grand Jury material Laws have been posted several times in threads when the Mueller Report was released.
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Originally Posted by Boss
If I remember right it's not laws. It is DOJ rules.
NOPE ... it?s Laws, it?s even LAW that the US Supreme Court has upheld several times. In fact, this same Circuit Court upheld the Grand Jury Law in April 2019.
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713
As you know very well, an unredacted copy is available for those with appropriate clearances under appropriate conditions. The laws and regulations are those relating to the protection of sources and uses and also laws covering the handling of classified information.
Nadler and any others on his Committee were allowed to go into a Secure room to. It?s the totally in-redacted Mueller Report. This has nothing to do with ?redactions? .... they want ALL the Grand Jury Testimony and Transcripts. Read the article closely.
Grand-jury evidence collected by the former special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election must be transmitted to Congress, a federal judge ruled on Friday, rejecting a Trump administration bid to keep the material secret.
Why is Grand Jury material held secret?
The prosecutor is allowed to present witnesses and accusation to prove an indictment is warranted- the accused is not allow to know anything at all about the proceedings OR to present any evidence or witnesses.
The Grand Jury either issues an indictment (probable cause) or not (no probable cause).
Mueller?s Grand Jury did not find probable cause - despite over 2 years, thousands of Subpoenas and interviews + close to $30 Million dollars in Tax Payer Money. Nadler wants to see it all so he can get a redo on the Mueller Investigation that failed to produce Impeachment for the Leftists.
The accused has ZERO Due Process, just as the accused (President of the United States) has no due process in the Kangaroo Court that Schiff is operating in Secret today to Nullify over 60 Million Votes in the 2016 Election.
do you understand security clearances??
do you understand need to know??
do you understand national security??
do you understand the government will protect its own??
if the Mueller report was for the public...he would have given weekly press updates....
The public or those in congress? The senators etc who have the security levels should have access. They prob all SCI - and the republicans just broke all the rules by going into the scif room with their dam phones ! And they pointed the finger at Hillary - well all 4 fingers just pointed back. Only ones not cleared where mrTs entourage. There is no reason the congress can not have the info it wants. None need to know ? For sure !
The Grand Jury material Laws have been posted several times in threads when the Mueller Report was released.
NOPE ... it?s Laws, it?s even LAW that the US Supreme Court has upheld several times. In fact, this same Circuit Court upheld the Grand Jury Law in April 2019.
Nadler and any others on his Committee were allowed to go into a Secure room to. It?s the totally in-redacted Mueller Report. This has nothing to do with ?redactions? .... they want ALL the Grand Jury Testimony and Transcripts. Read the article closely.
Grand-jury evidence collected by the former special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election must be transmitted to Congress, a federal judge ruled on Friday, rejecting a Trump administration bid to keep the material secret.
Why is Grand Jury material held secret?
The prosecutor is allowed to present witnesses and accusation to prove an indictment is warranted- the accused is not allow to know anything at all about the proceedings OR to present any evidence or witnesses.
The Grand Jury either issues an indictment (probable cause) or not (no probable cause).
Mueller?s Grand Jury did not find probable cause - despite over 2 years, thousands of Subpoenas and interviews + close to $30 Million dollars in Tax Payer Money. Nadler wants to see it all so he can get a redo on the Mueller Investigation that failed to produce Impeachment for the Leftists.
The accused has ZERO Due Process, just as the accused (President of the United States) has no due process in the Kangaroo Court that Schiff is operating in Secret today to Nullify over 60 Million Votes in the 2016 Election.
The house judiciary was not allowed to view the entire report unredacted.
While this ruling is likely to be appealed and overturned, it does not appear that the "Justice Department" was ever really interested in keeping the redacted parts of the Mueller Report unpublished. Rather, it is just the requirements of the law that require these particular pieces of information to be treated in this way.
So if and when these redacted portions of the report are authoritatively determined to be publishable, there does not appear to be any reason why the DOJ would be opposed to doing that.
You folks are talking apples and oranges here. What this ruling is for is the grand jury testimonies, not the actual unredacted Mueller report. As already stated, an unredacted report was available to anyone with clearance who wanted to see it. Not a single democrat went to look.
Grand jury testimonies are intended to be kept secret to protect innocent people who may be named in them. This ruling will get overturned and that info should never come to light. It will set a very dangerous precedent if those testimonies are actually release.
an impeachment is not a judicial proceeding..... its a political proceeding
That is correct and the judge was a fool to question the argument.
All the judge needs to do is look to the Constitution.
"The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Article III, Section 1, U.S. Constitution.
Congress does not hold any judicial power, not legally/constitutionally speaking. Therefore, it naturally follows that impeachment cannot be called a judicial proceeding as that would be usurping powers granted exclusively in the Constitution to the Judicial Branch of government. Impeachment is a pure political exercise.
That is correct and the judge was a fool to question the argument.
All the judge needs to do is look to the Constitution.
"The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Article III, Section 1, U.S. Constitution.
Congress does not hold any judicial power, not legally/constitutionally speaking. Therefore, it naturally follows that impeachment cannot be called a judicial proceeding as that would be usurping powers granted exclusively in the Constitution to the Judicial Branch of government. Impeachment is a pure political exercise.
No one indicated this was a judicial proceeding in a court of law.
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