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Old 10-29-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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Any money given to todays black community for things that happened hundreds of years ago. SHOULD GO TO HUNT DOWN AND FIND THE DEADBEAT BABY DADDIES NOT SUPPORTING THEIR KIDS TODAY.....The black children today are not suffering because of slavery 200 years ago. They are suffering because of the worthless parents and missing baby daddies NOT PAYING THE BILLS AND BEING THERE FOR THEM TODAY!!!!!!
Was there ever a year that black people could legitimately claim that their main problems came from white people?
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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The demographic responsible are dead people.
No they're not. I was born in the '50s. I remember segregation, rampant and overt discrimination (refusing to hire blacks), terrible treatment and disrespect toward black people, trying to prevent them from voting, and of course...gerrymandering still goes on.

A person rarely recovers from financial and work discrimination. It condemns many to a life as low income, continuing through their senior years. And those responsible don't give up even then. They continually try to dismantle Social Security & Medicare, the two programs that prevent these same low income people from starving or dying young from medical problems.

They are alive & well and walk among us.
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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No they're not. I was born in the '50s. I remember segregation, rampant and overt discrimination (refusing to hire blacks), terrible treatment and disrespect toward black people, trying to prevent them from voting, and of course...gerrymandering still goes on.

A person rarely recovers from financial and work discrimination. It condemns many to a life as low income, continuing through their senior years. And those responsible don't give up even then. They continually try to dismantle Social Security & Medicare, the two programs that prevent these same low income people from starving or dying young from medical problems.

They are alive & well and walk among us.
For sure they are: However, the strategy is to wait long enough until everyone DIRECTLY impacted has died off. When that happens.....then you will see their heart and compassion and recognition of how bad and wrong that era was.....BUT TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE VICTIMS ARE NOW DEAD.

Its a strategy. Only recognize injustices to black people, in terms of compensation, when the directive victims are all dead. The goal is to keep black people beneath white people, overall. They don't want white people helping black people to move up. They don't want the government helping black people. AND THEY DON'T EVEN WANT BLACK PEOPLE HELPING BLACK PEOPLE.
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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You should start the process now. Why wait to piggy back off of black peoples struggles? That is what everyone does anyway.....piggy back off the legitimate struggle of black people. Why not take the lead?
I got enough problems of my own than to worry about "black people" struggles. I already did more than my share to help them.
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Old 10-29-2019, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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What do you want.....is this a contract you are looking for me to sign?
I'm looking for discussion and solutions. Not diatribes.
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Old 10-29-2019, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Yeah....but after those states pay they will be in such a debt that the federal government will have to bail them out anyway.

What do you care which states pay anyway....I thought you were planning on leaving after you mooch off our freedoms created by others in the past.
Well first, I thought you were on the "it's all our responsibility" wagon.


Here's an interesting map from the Library of Congress

https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3861e....,1.713,0.887,0

here's some more info:

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There were five states with over 400,000 slaves just before the beginning of the Civil War. Virginia with 490,867 slaves took the lead and was followed by Georgia (462,198), Mississippi (436,631), Alabama (435,080), and South Carolina (402,406).

Slavery was just as important to the economy in other states as well. Several relied on the free labor of over 100,000 slaves. Those states include: Louisiana (331,726), North Carolina (331,059), Tennessee (275,719), Kentucky (225,483), Texas (182,566), Missouri (114,931), and Arkansas (111,115). This does not conclude the states with slaves. There were six others, some were not considered southern states and would not go on to form the Confederate States. The remaining states with slaves were: Maryland (87,189), Florida (61,745), Delaware (1,798), New Jersey (18), Nebraska (15), and Kansas (2).
However, even using your line of thinking, and applying it to my example, that $2.36B would be 0.5% of the combined $462B annual budgets of the states of the south where slavery was still legal and they were in the Confederacy and they had > 100K in 1860.
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Old 10-29-2019, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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this can be done. you just have to channel your anger and hatred into solution-oriented discussion
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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In case he couldn't find the thread to respond, here it is Indentured Servant.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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here it is again, Indentured Servant
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: california
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I should think that the thousands that died fighting a war to end slavery should have well paid that debt.
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