PROPAGANDA 101, GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY/NOT GOOD AT BUSINESS (post office)

[Boer]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

yawn!!!!

Translation:

Too worried about the latest salacious Trump news to be concerned about the government sabotaging itself at the behest of corporate bribery

[Boer]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

The USPS has a monopoly by law. It's illegal for private companies to offer low cost "when it gets there" mail service that competes with first class mail.

So how can you be a monopoly when you have to continuously reapply for your job over your entire career?

[Boer]

Originally Posted by crone

And the fix it service they provided the American military was not too good either. IIRC, their guy grounded electricity to plumbing pipes and electrocuted some troops in Iraq.

No problem...just rebrand

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi

[Boer]

"Congress is being bribed to kill the Postal Service. Even though they do a better job than FedEx or UPS.
You may have heard about UPS and FedEx f***ing up during the Christmas rush. You may not have heard that the Postal Service did better than either of their competitors. You probably did not hear that they covered for UPS and FedEx, delivering thousands upon thousands of packages that the much-ballyhooed “overnight” delivery companies couldn’t handle. And the USPS accomplished this feat in spite of being put at a massive competitive disadvantage by Congress, back in 2006.

That disadvantage?They imposed a regulation so burdensome as to to destroy the agency: a 5.5-billion-dollar-a-year pension pre-payment requirement on the USPS that NONE of their competitors have to pay. Hell, no other agency or company in the USA has to pay it. And the Congress imposed this ridiculous tax upon the USPS after being bribed to do so by the likes of UPS. Bribed? Yes, bribed. Calling them “campaign contributions” is a nice fiction, but we are calling spades by their rightful names here.

For example: co-sponsor Susan Collins got $22,160.00 from UPS, just in 2006. Joe Lieberman is an even cheaper lay: $5,000.00 from FedEx in 2006. And then they passed the post-office-killing bill by a “voice vote”, which allows legislators to avoid going on the official record. Not just whores, but cowardly whores.

Of course, the House is on the take, too: let’s look at just one of the sponsors:

From 2001 through 2010 Shuster received $29,500 from Fed-Ex, $6,000 from Koch Industries PAC, and $36,500 from UPS. In the 2011-2012 election cycle, according to OpenSecrets.org, Fed-Ex has given Shuster $7,500. UPS has given $ 5,000.

All of these mutts want to privatize the postal service. And who would take over after privatization? Why, shucky darn, what a coinkeedink, it would be UPS and FedEx. We would pay more and get less, as our elected “representatives” laugh all the way to their Swiss bank accounts"

https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com...-fedex-or-ups/

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by Boer

You may have heard about UPS and FedEx f***ing up during the Christmas rush. You may not have heard that the Postal Service did better than either of their competitors.

Having been in the delivery business what I can tell you is the way you make money is having an area saturated with customers. You can make a lot more driving a truck to location and servicing every house on the street than just a few. The USPS has 100% saturation of potential customers.



Realistically there should be no competition because the USPS should easily be able to bury them especially considering they only need to be profit neutral.

That disadvantage?They imposed a regulation so burdensome as to to destroy the agency: a 5.5-billion-dollar-a-year pension pre-payment requirement on the USPS that NONE of their competitors have to pay.

• Both public and private pension are severely underfunded/failing, this is one of the few examples where it is not.
• Their bread and butter (first class mail monopoly) is becoming less profitable every year.
• Automation means less people which also means less people to pay into the pension in the future.

This was outstanding decision and your kids will be glad it was made because it's one bill they won't be left on the hook for.

[Boer]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

Having been in the delivery business what I can tell you is the way you make money is having an area saturated with customers. You can make a lot more driving a truck to location and servicing every house on the street than just a few. The USPS has 100% saturation of potential customers.



Realistically there should be no competition because the USPS should easily be able to bury them especially considering they only need to be profit neutral.

• Both public and private pension are severely underfunded/failing, this is one of the few examples where it is not.
• Their bread and butter (first class mail monopoly) is becoming less profitable every year.
• Automation means less people which also means less people to pay into the pension in the future.

This was outstanding decision and your kids will be glad it was made because it's one bill they won't be left on the hook for.

any pension "failure" can directly be laid on the doorstep of the privatized for profit medical industry jacking up prices to "concierge" level

If the democratic government is usurped by for profit corporate powers (who now provide the social service) your tax bill will NOT go down

Why would it...they would have a COMPLETE monopoly AND have their hands in the cookie jar (tax coffer)

[Mathguy]

OP opened up with a classic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

[Boer]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

OP opened up with a classic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

Its a very simple story of a bribe paid to lawmakers from a private special corporate interest designd to destroy a perfectly solvent Public Service

[Boer]

https://youtu.be/1y28knoeJoU