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Old 11-05-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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Recent FOIA release of US State Department emails discussing Hunter Biden's Burisma board position (and the other is Devon Archer, who met with Sec State John Kerry regarding the same issue) in an attempt to squash the Ukraine's investigation into Burisma's corruption includes this:

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"Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption. She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member). Tramontano would like to talk with U/S Novelli about getting a better understanding of how the U.S. came to the determination that the company is corrupt. According to Tramontano there is no evidence of corruption, has been no hearing or process, and evidence to the contrary has not been considered. Would appreciate any background you may be able to provide on this issue and suggested TPs for U/S Novelli’s meeting."
https://www.scribd.com/document/4333...velli-Contacts

Karen Tramontano, of Blue Star, is a Bill Clinton Admin alumni.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:57 AM
 
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This ties up much of the loose ends.

Hunter Biden’s Ukraine gas firm pressed Obama administration to end corruption allegations, memos show
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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Show us the part where either Biden used the office of the Vice President to further Burisma's efforts in this regard. Better yet, show us where they were involved in this effort at all. I'm fine with investigating the Bidens should there be reason to, but this sounds like someone was trying to set up an above-board, run-of-the-mill meeting to facilitate a run-of-the-mill administrative review of their "corruption" designation and name dropped Hunter Biden. Its not even clear he knew it occurred, much less authorized it.

I guess since the "Joe Biden blackmailed people to shut down Shokin's investigation" foolishness has no legs, Trump supporter's have to resort to straw-grasping to try to distract and deflect.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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Show us the part where either Biden used the office of the Vice President to further Burisma's efforts in this regard.
It's the reverse. Burisma tried to use Hunter Biden's relationship to his father to gain influence with the Obama Admin (the Biden's are guilty of influence peddling, which actually IS a crime). Furthermore, Quid Pro Quo Joe threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid to the Ukraine if they didn't fire their prosecutor.

Influence peddling: the illegal practice of using one's influence in government or connections with persons in authority to obtain favors or preferential treatment for another, usually in return for payment.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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It's the reverse. Burisma tried to use Hunter Biden's relationship to his father to gain influence with the Obama Admin (the Biden's are guilty of influence peddling, which actually IS a crime). Furthermore, Quid Pro Quo Joe threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid to the Ukraine if they didn't fire their prosecutor.

Influence peddling: the illegal practice of using one's influence in government or connections with persons in authority to obtain favors or preferential treatment for another, usually in return for payment.
So where is the evidence that either Hunter or Joe Biden did anything at all? All I see is someone else dropping a name while setting up a meeting.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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If everything the right says about the Biden’s is true it still doesn’t make tying foreign aid to an investigation not an impeachable offense.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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So where is the evidence that either Hunter or Joe Biden did anything at all? All I see is someone else dropping a name while setting up a meeting.
Hunter Biden accepted a position with Burisma for which he wasn't qualified, and admitted he only got the job because he is Joe Biden's son in an interview (stupid to outright admit it on national TV, but... he's Biden's son ), and VP Quid Pro Quo Joe threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid to the Ukraine if the Ukraine didn't fire their prosecutor within 6 hours, which the Ukraine promptly did.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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The issue is you have to link this to Joe Biden which has not happened. Trump and Pompeo have full control over the deep state an cannot find ANYTHING?

Trump has the CIA, FBI, State Dept, Rudy and his Goons and NOTHING?

His Department heads that report to him cannot find a single document or email? How long do we have to play this game?

They are wasting their time with this.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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If everything the right says about the Biden’s is true it still doesn’t make tying foreign aid to an investigation not an impeachable offense.
There was no discussion of trading foreign aid for anything in Trump"s phone call. The discussion was about the Ukraine wanting to BUY US missiles. Furthermore, Trump was asking for further info on VP Quid Pro Quo Joe's corrupt threat to the Ukraine, which Trump has every right to do being sworn to uphold the US Constitution and Federal Law.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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The issue is you have to link this to Joe Biden which has not happened.
Joe Biden admitted it (on video) at the CFR.

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Trump and Pompeo have full control over the deep state an cannot find ANYTHING?
I wouldn't be too sure of that. The FISA report will be released soon, and Durham is conducting a criminal investigation.
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