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Old 10-27-2019, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I think Crazee Cat Lady is frantically googling to try and find a law ... any law ... that the President broke by not telling Congress.

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Old 10-27-2019, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Originally Posted by bobbythegreat View Post
There was more trustworthy leaders in Congress back then. Pelosi has proven time and again that she doesn't deserve to be in the loop. It's better to have her whine then to risk the mission failing due to leaks.
She is third in line to the Presidency. If something were to happen to Trump and Pence she would be your President.
She has served for years, and is in the group of eight that he is by law suppose to notify when he does something like this.

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"I am extremely troubled Trump notified only Republicans, but did not see fit to inform me or any Congressional Democrats of the operation," Engel said. "His implication that Speaker Pelosi, the elected representative third in line for the Presidency, cannot be trusted with sensitive information is tremendously problematic and insulting, and further politicizes foreign policy—especially when Trump has shown himself to be an untrustworthy guardian of our national security and sensitive intelligence information."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...-raid-n1072556
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
It's a sad day when our own congress is more of a threat to our servicemen than Russia is...
It is a sad day when there are people who think that Congress is more of a threat to our servicemen than Russia is.
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I trust Russians more than Democrats, so there’s that....
There seems to be a lot of Un-American out there that shares your view.
In my opinion they should all be sent away or tried for treason.



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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Russia is doing far less to harm American citizens, as well as this nation as a whole, than the Democratic party.
If you are not a Russian Bot, you missed your calling in life.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
That is besides the point he should have advised all the leaders as did Obama, he even advised Bush of the mission on Osama. What exactly is the issue with advising congressional leaders. Obama advised Boehner and McConnell why is this different.
Because they have become so filled with hate and Partisanship that they think Russia is good, and the other half of
America, the Democrats are bad. Just one more thing that Putin wanted, to bring chaos and division to America.
With that, and his Puppet US President he must be blissful right now.

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There's no law that says that.

None.
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Top Democrats reacted with anger to Donald Trump’s decision to go ahead with the Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi raid without giving them advance notice, on grounds that they were not to be trusted with such highly sensitive information.
In a break with precedent, Trump excluded senior Democrats on the so-called Gang of Eight – the group of congressional leaders who by law are to be informed of covert actions ordered by the US president – from all operational intelligence.

Those cut out of the loop included Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, and Adam Schiff, who chairs the House intelligence committee.
To rub salt into the wound, Trump did give prior briefing to a Republican member of the group, chairman of the Senate intelligence committee Richard Burr. He also tipped off Lindsey Graham, a senator from South Carolina who holds no official intelligence position.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-baghdadi-raid
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Meh.
I can't lay blame on Trump for this one. I can think of several valid strategic reasons why Trump would inform the Russians but not Congress.

The reasons all stink, but are rational given the contingencies of the operation.
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:51 PM
 
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They would not have tried to stop it. That is ridiculous.
Everyone is glad that he is dead.
Ridiculous. I've never heard of this alleged person. I am not glad. I am not interested in the least.
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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lol Crazee Cat Lady.

You're still wrong.

Trump is not required, nor bound by a law, ANY LAW, that says he must inform Congress - or anyone in Congress for that matter.

Try again.

(Don't you think if there was they would be screaming about impeaching him on that as well?)
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady View Post
She is third in line to the Presidency. If something were to happen to Trump and Pence she would be your President.
She has served for years, and is in the group of eight that he is by law suppose to notify when he does something like this.



It is a sad day when there are people who think that Congress is more of a threat to our servicemen than Russia is.

There seems to be a lot of Un-American out there that shares your view.
In my opinion they should all be sent away or tried for treason.




If you are not a Russian Bot, you missed your calling in life.

Because they have become so filled with hate and Partisanship that they think Russia is good, and the other half of
America, the Democrats are bad. Just one more thing that Putin wanted, to bring chaos and division to America.
With that, and his Puppet US President he must be blissful right now.
You people are unbelievable. You cry about not following precedent, but when Pelosi doesn’t follow the previous precedent of voting on an impeachment inquiry y’all all cry it’s not required. You clowns continue to wonder why you won’t win the election, because you are a prime example of how leftists think.
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady View Post
In a break with precedent, Trump excluded senior Democrats on the so-called Gang of Eight – the group of congressional leaders who by law are to be informed of covert actions ordered by the US president – from all operational intelligence.
Any such "law" would be flagrantly unconstitutional. One single Congress and one single President cannot amend the Constitution.
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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good lord, more phantom laws. Go ahead, post the law that says confessional leadership has to be briefed on military operations.
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federal law is pretty clear...
(c) timing of reports; access to finding
(1) the president shall ensure that any finding approved pursuant to subsection (a) shall be reported in writing to the congressional intelligence committees as soon as possible after such approval and before the initiation of the covert action authorized by the finding, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (2) and paragraph (3).
(2) if the president determines that it is essential to limit access to the finding to meet extraordinary circumstances affecting vital interests of the united states, the finding may be reported to the chairmen and ranking minority members of the congressional intelligence committees, the speaker and minority leader of the house of representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the senate, and such other member or members of the congressional leadership as may be included by the president.
https://hotair.com/archives/taylormi...aghdadis-raid/
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Old 10-27-2019, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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lol Crazee Cat Lady.

You're still wrong.

Trump is not required, nor bound by a law, ANY LAW, that says he must inform Congress - or anyone in Congress for that matter.

Try again.

(Don't you think if there was they would be screaming about impeaching him on that as well?)
I have already posted links on the law.

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federal law is pretty clear...
(c) timing of reports; access to finding
(1) the president shall ensure that any finding approved pursuant to subsection (a) shall be reported in writing to the congressional intelligence committees as soon as possible after such approval and before the initiation of the covert action authorized by the finding, except as otherwise provided in paragraph (2) and paragraph (3).
(2) if the president determines that it is essential to limit access to the finding to meet extraordinary circumstances affecting vital interests of the united states, the finding may be reported to the chairmen and ranking minority members of the congressional intelligence committees, the speaker and minority leader of the house of representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the senate, and such other member or members of the congressional leadership as may be included by the president.
https://hotair.com/archives/taylormi...aghdadis-raid/
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Old 10-27-2019, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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You people are unbelievable. You cry about not following precedent, but when Pelosi doesn’t follow the previous precedent of voting on an impeachment inquiry y’all all cry it’s not required. You clowns continue to wonder why you won’t win the election, because you are a prime example of how leftists think.

A federal judge just ruled in favor of Pelosi on that one.
And it is partly because of changes the Republican House made in 2015...
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