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Old 10-30-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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A friend recently married a Cuban woman. She thinks Americans who want socialism are crazy. When he took her to a large shopping mall for the first time, she burst into tears. She had never seen so many items for sale in one place in her life. He bought her a carload of clothes! I warned him to hide the credit cards until she gets a job. He's middle class but compared to Cuba, he's rich.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:19 PM
 
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I explained this:







No you won't, there are different forms of communism/socialism.
Right, multiple mutations of communism, such as Nazism.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Right, multiple mutations of communism, such as Nazism.
There are many alternatives to the form of modern industrial capitalism we live in today.

hybrid communism, libertarian socialism, etc.

The question isn't what ideology you support, but what type of society you want to live in and the best way to achieve that goal.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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There are many alternatives to the form of modern industrial capitalism we live in today.

hybrid communism, libertarian socialism, etc.

The question isn't what ideology you support, but what type of society you want to live in and the best way to achieve that goal.
You are more than welcome to live out your alternatives VOLUNTARILY.

Just don’t force anybody else into it.
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Old 10-30-2019, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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They could always move to North Korea if they want to live under communism.
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Old 10-30-2019, 06:47 PM
 
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No...its the road that the free market eventually arrives at. Aside from strong government intervention how do you propose we stop the top two breweries from eventually taking over the remaining percentage of the beer market?
why assume they need stopping? maybe they are the top two because a majority of consumers prefer their products over others.
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:57 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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The top 26 billionaires own $1.4 trillion — as much as 3.8 billion other people

"The combined fortunes of the world's 26 richest individuals reached $1.4 trillion last year — the same amount as the total wealth of the 3.8 billion poorest people.
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Oxfam recommends that nations tax wealth at fairer levels, raise rates on personal income and corporate taxes and eliminate tax avoidance by companies and the super-rich. It also advocates providing universal free health care, education and other public services — andensuring that women and girls also benefit. And it suggests investing in public services — including water, electricity and childcare — to free up women's time and limit the number of unpaid hours they work."
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$1.4 trillion pays for 121 days of our government's spending. 4 months is all you get for that $1.3 trillion, and then all your billionaires are gone. The sheep have been skinned, not sheared, and are now dead. Now what?

So shear instead of skin, but how to do it without the people with means to do so changing their behavior? Hmmm...
Tax adjustments ... if their taxes are increased they change their behavior and if their taxes are decreased they change their behavior ... that is how it is they will always have money for their own.
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Was just listening to this the other day, and it seemed appropriate for this thread:
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Originally Posted by Ice-T, as spoken by Jello Biafra
We interrupt this program with a special bulletin:
America is now under martial law
All constitutional rights have been suspended
Stay in your homes
Do not attempt to contact loved ones, insurance agents or attorneys
Shut up
Do not attempt to think or depression may occur
Stay in your homes
Curfew is at 7 PM sharp after work
Anyone caught outside the gates of their subdivision sectors after curfew
Will be shot
Remain calm, do not panic
Your neighborhood watch officer will be by to collect urine samples in the morning
Anyone caught interfering with the collection of urine samples
Will be shot
Stay in your homes, remain calm
The number one enemy of progress is question
National security is more important than individual will
All sports broadcasts will proceed as normal
No more than two people may gather anywhere without permission
Use only the drugs prescribed by your boss or supervisor
Shut up, be happy
Obey all orders without question
The comfort you demanded is now mandatory
Be happy
At last, everything is done for you
Just made me think of the cyclical nature of people wanting government to be their boss, parents, savior, provider, etc...and what a Faustian Bargain that all is.
The government has a boss and if you do not know who that is, here is a hint ... it isn't us.



George Carlin -"Who Really Controls America"


"It's a Big Club and you ain't in it ... "
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Old 10-30-2019, 08:19 PM
 
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They could always move to North Korea if they want to live under communism.
Wrong. If they move to NK, they would become slaves to the communists, but if they implement communism here, you and I would be their slaves.
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Old 10-30-2019, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You are more than welcome to live out your alternatives VOLUNTARILY.

Just don’t force anybody else into it.
We live in a system of finance today, everyone does.

The system has to deconstructed. Without that nothing will be fixed.
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Old 10-30-2019, 09:03 PM
 
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We live in a system of finance today, everyone does.

The system has to deconstructed. Without that nothing will be fixed.
By deconstruction, you mean slaughtering bunch of people.

You plan to make them an offer that either their brain or their money will be handed over to you.
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