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Old 10-31-2019, 09:17 AM
 
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[/list]Those are not my words. That is directly from the "whistle blowers" memo he wrote.
You accusing someone of altering a government document? You got proof of that happening?
Your words are that the transcript the whistleblower says was produced is the same transcript that has been released to the public. That is untrue.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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The only one caught trying to alter a government document, is Vindman.
Vindman wasn't "caught" doing anything. Vindman states that when the people who listened to the call were asked to cobble together a transcript to release to the public, that he argued for parts of the conversation to be included, but that others overruled him.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Let's play the game that the MSM Media uses over and over again

" If it is true " that the Whistle blower...

Federal documents reveal that ( whistleblower ) , a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Further, ( whistle blower ) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also ( whistle blower ) huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

And ( whistleblower ) worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

Documents confirm the DNC opposition researcher attended at least one White House meeting with ( whistle blower ) in November 2015. She visited the White House with a number of Ukrainian officials lobbying the Obama administration for aid for Ukraine.

With ( whistleblower) name long under wraps, interest in the intelligence analyst has become so high that a handful of former colleagues have compiled a roughly 40-page research dossier on him. A classified version of the document is circulating on Capitol Hill, and briefings have been conducted based on it. One briefed Republican has been planning to unmask the whistle blower in a speech on the House floor.

And there is more, much more.

One of the whistle blowers former co worker....now works for Schiff. Participating in the " Testimony " , by handing notes to Democrat Attorneys

Source : Paul Sperry
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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Let's play the game that the MSM Media uses over and over again

" If it is true " that the Whistle blower...

Federal documents reveal that ( whistleblower ) , a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Further, ( whistle blower ) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also ( whistle blower ) huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

And ( whistleblower ) worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

Documents confirm the DNC opposition researcher attended at least one White House meeting with ( whistle blower ) in November 2015. She visited the White House with a number of Ukrainian officials lobbying the Obama administration for aid for Ukraine.

With ( whistleblower) name long under wraps, interest in the intelligence analyst has become so high that a handful of former colleagues have compiled a roughly 40-page research dossier on him. A classified version of the document is circulating on Capitol Hill, and briefings have been conducted based on it. One briefed Republican has been planning to unmask the whistle blower in a speech on the House floor.

And there is more, much more.

One of the whistle blowers former co worker....now works for Schiff. Participating in the " Testimony " , by handing notes to Democrat Attorneys

Source : Paul Sperry
We don't know who the whistleblower was, so all the speculation about him is just speculation. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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And if others corroborate what he says?
We HAVE THE TRANSCRIPT to see for ourselves.
Seems like other people are thinking for the transcript.
Can people not think for themselves, off the actual evidence?
Go gaslight another narrative.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:30 AM
 
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We don't know who the whistleblower was, so all the speculation about him is just speculation. Sorry to burst your bubble.



Yes we do.
Have you not been informed?
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:33 AM
 
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We HAVE THE TRANSCRIPT to see for ourselves.
Seems like other people are thinking for the transcript.
Can people not think for themselves, off the actual evidence?
Go gaslight another narrative.
We have a transcript, and it certainly gives a part of the story. The statements issued by the various witnesses testifying are filling out that story.

The irony of you accusing someone else of gaslighting this thread is jaw-dropping.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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Yes we do.
Have you not been informed?
No, we do not. Rumors may be rife, but there has not been confirmation of the whistleblower's identity. And the federal government is prohibited from such a confirmation.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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Let's play the game that the MSM Media uses over and over again

" If it is true " that the Whistle blower...

Federal documents reveal that ( whistleblower ) , a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Further, ( whistle blower ) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also ( whistle blower ) huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

And ( whistleblower ) worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

Documents confirm the DNC opposition researcher attended at least one White House meeting with ( whistle blower ) in November 2015. She visited the White House with a number of Ukrainian officials lobbying the Obama administration for aid for Ukraine.

With ( whistleblower) name long under wraps, interest in the intelligence analyst has become so high that a handful of former colleagues have compiled a roughly 40-page research dossier on him. A classified version of the document is circulating on Capitol Hill, and briefings have been conducted based on it. One briefed Republican has been planning to unmask the whistle blower in a speech on the House floor.

And there is more, much more.

One of the whistle blowers former co worker....now works for Schiff. Participating in the " Testimony " , by handing notes to Democrat Attorneys

Source : Paul Sperry
I don't know. Which combination(s) of those hypotheticals would make the testimony given by Hill, Volker, Sondland, Vindman, and Taylor (along with all of their contemporaneous documentation) that Trump was conditioning the release strategic aid and diplomatic favors on the public announcement of a criminal investigation into a political rival suddenly cease to exist?

Or let me put it another way. If the whistleblower was Hillary Clinton herself, it would not change the testimony of the first-hand witnesses who have already testified under oath to Congress that Trump jeopardized national security by using the apparatus of the State in a quid pro quo exchange for personal political gain.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I don't know. Which combination(s) of those hypotheticals would make the testimony given by Hill, Volker, Sondland, Vindman, and Taylor (along with all of their contemporaneous documentation) that Trump was conditioning the release strategic aid and diplomatic favors on the public announcement of a criminal investigation into a political rival suddenly cease to exist?

Or let me put it another way. If the whistleblower was Hillary Clinton herself, it would not change the testimony of the first-hand witnesses who have already testified under oath to Congress that Trump jeopardized national security by using the apparatus of the State in a quid pro quo exchange for personal political gain.

Nailed it.

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