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So someone who has voted for the Republican candidate since Reagan is all of a sudden racist because she voted for the Republican candidate in 2012, also? She's expected to vote for the Democrat just because he's black and she needs to prove she's not a racist? Seems to me that people who vote for a man simply because of his skin color are the racists.
Well...lets be fair on the other side as well. Could it be that some whites voted for him, even though they were not happy with a black person becoming president, because of his politics and not wanting Republicans to win?
If people can say that white people voting for Obama was a demonstration that whites are no longer racist, then it can be argued that whites voting against him is a demonstration that those whites are racist. That's fair....right?
Absolutely and that's my point.
People vote for candidates for a variety of reasons, usually due to party loyalty which is quite possibly the worst reason of all.
I think some whites voted against him just because he was black and no other reason. I will never believe that the majority voted against him for that reason. Most I know were turned off by his class warfare approach to politics and his perceived lack of real experience.
I voted Romney in one election and Ron Paul in another.
Last election I wrote in James Webb. Hillary and Trump were simply too appalling to even consider.
I strongly disagree. There is such a thing as "Black American Culture" and I believe that most black Americans would disagree with you on that. They have their own unique English dialect aka ebonics. They have created wonderful unique styles of music, such as gospel, blues, jazz, Motown, hip-hop and rap. Yes, the majority of them are christians, but some are muslim and even jewish. And they also have their voodoo and other folk beliefs too.
There is an American subculture that is endemic to the descendants of enslaved Americans.
I truly believe that the vast majority of white conservatives would vote for a black conservative in a heartbeat. Especially against a democrat of any color. I hope one day soon, they will have the chance to prove me right. I dont think you can extrapolate any assumptions about color being a major factor in presidential elections, at least when it comes to conservatives.
Liberals tend to shame black conservative politicians, which is a form of liberal racism as far as I am concerned. I’m sure they dont see it that way though.
Absolutely and that's my point.
People vote for candidates for a variety of reasons, usually due to party loyalty which is quite possibly the worst reason of all.
I think some whites voted against him just because he was black and no other reason. I will never believe that the majority voted against him for that reason. Most I know were turned off by his class warfare approach to politics and his perceived lack of real experience.
I voted Romney in one election and Ron Paul in another.
Last election I wrote in James Webb. Hillary and Trump were simply too appalling to even consider.
I NEVER said that whites voted against Obama because he was black. That claim was simply a straw man of dissenters grasping at straws to discredit what I said. I responded to a person commenting on MO complaining about her claims of racism being discredited by the fact that white people voted for her husband, who is black.
My point was that white people voting for Obama cannot be said to be evidence that racism no longer is an issue and that whites are not racist. Hence, I noted that he MAJORITY OF WHITES actually voted against Obama. Whites cannot define their sentiments by the behavior of the minority of whites. That is the fallacy of composition. I never said that whites voted against him due to his color. However, if one can argue that a white vote for Obama is a demonstration that they are not racist, as opposed to a demonstration of a political choice, then it can be argued that a white vote against Obama is a demonstration that those whites are racist.
The truth is that a racist person could put their political interest above their racial interest and vote for a black president even though they really do not want a black person as president, just like whites can vote against Obama because of politic interest as opposed to their racial interest, which may be null.
I truly believe that the vast majority of white conservatives would vote for a black conservative in a heartbeat. Especially against a democrat of any color. I hope one day soon, they will have the chance to prove me right. I dont think you can extrapolate any assumptions about color being a major factor in presidential elections, at least when it comes to conservatives.
Liberals tend to shame black conservative politicians, which is a form of liberal racism as far as I am concerned. I’m sure they dont see it that way though.
I would vote for a black conservative over a white liberal. But I don't see any reason I have to do this to "prove I'm not racist". I don't have to prove anything to leftist or follow their pseudo-religious-morality that a non-white person, or a female or a gay person etc must become president. I only have to answer to god. If I have the choice honestly I'm going to vote for the white male conservative.
Your neighborhood is simply one in millions of neighborhoods that have also existed over a period of years. Dude, you have a sampling error. Your sample is to small to make a claim about the nation as a whole. The margin of error is like +/- 50.
Yes....I realized that the video did not match what I said....but I had something come up and did not have time to change it. Thanks though. At least you got something right.
Haha, okay man. I'm not talking about the nation as a whole, I'm talking about the HOOD. You're sticking to this assertion that one crime-ridden inner-city neighborhood is somehow different from all of the others. I'm not sure where you get that idea from, but you go ahead and roll with it. You can check the crime statistics for every other neighborhood that has experienced "white flight" if you'd like. But you'd rather continue to talk out of your butt, I'm sure. If you're stuck in the ghetto, I can see why.
But anyway, screw it, you're right. No one ever fled from a high-crime neighborhood because of crime. And anyone who says that they did is only giving you an anecdote, and therefore it don't mean nothin'. They left because....they just can't stand the sight of black people, I guess. And that goes for all of the black people who left the hood as well. You're just so eager to be a victim of the racist white man that there's no reasoning with you.
Haha, okay man. I'm not talking about the nation as a whole, I'm talking about the HOOD. You're sticking to this assertion that one crime-ridden inner-city neighborhood is somehow different from all of the others. I'm not sure where you get that idea from, but you go ahead and roll with it. You can check the crime statistics for every other neighborhood that has experienced "white flight" if you'd like. But you'd rather continue to talk out of your butt, I'm sure. If you're stuck in the ghetto, I can see why.
But anyway, screw it, you're right. No one ever fled from a high-crime neighborhood because of crime. And anyone who says that they did is only giving you an anecdote, and therefore it don't mean nothin'. They left because....they just can't stand the sight of black people, I guess. And that goes for all of the black people who left the hood as well. You're just so eager to be a victim of the racist white man that there's no reasoning with you.
Oh, and it's "too small," not "to small."
I can correct “to” to “too”.....but you cannot correct your fallacy of composition. At the end of the day, such an argument will forever be a defect in reasoning.
I truly believe that the vast majority of white conservatives would vote for a black conservative in a heartbeat. Especially against a democrat of any color. I hope one day soon, they will have the chance to prove me right. I dont think you can extrapolate any assumptions about color being a major factor in presidential elections, at least when it comes to conservatives.
Liberals tend to shame black conservative politicians, which is a form of liberal racism as far as I am concerned. I’m sure they dont see it that way though.
You know who I would love, love, LOVE to see run (but she never will)? Condi Rice.
And directly to your point about the voting, we had a black Republican running against a white Democrat in my district, and each supported the policies you would expect. I didn't even have to think twice. I voted for the black Republican. (He lost, though. I'm surrounded by liberals who are apparently too racist to vote for the black dude!)
I can correct “to” to “too”.....but you cannot correct your fallacy of composition. At the end of the day, such an argument will forever be a defect in reasoning.
Uh huh. You don't understand what "anecdote" means, and you don't know third-grade English, but you think you understand what fallacy of composition means?
And I'm still waiting for some evidence to back up your claim that most white flighters haven't experienced any crime.
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