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That's an easy one. They will simply smear the witnesses. When the truth is not in your favor, distract, deflect and smear becomes the order of the day.
I would be interested in hearing excuses why the full transcript can't be released. There will need to be some gold medal-worthy gymnastics involved to explain that.
Nixon was widely admired for slowing the war in Vietnam and being in office when it eventually - finally - ended, for opening trade and communication with China, and for creating the Environmental Protection Agency. He was far more intelligent and knowledgeable than is Trump and was a very experienced politician when he became president, having been vice president during the Eisenhower administration. Personally, he was considered a devoted family man, though it was known by many that he also had a vile temper and his language was coarse when he was stressed or felt defensive or attacked. He was a very complex person, with remarkable gifts and regrettable weaknesses.
During the last days of Watergate, public opinion of Nixon changed drastically, with many former supporters changing their minds when it became known that he had lied to his young adult daughter Julie about his involvement in the cover-up. My father was one of those who abruptly changed his views because of this incident.
But no, there was never the blind worship we see nowadays. Nixon's supporters prior to Watergate gave every indication of being "normal" middle-of-the-road Republicans. And even during the earlier days of Watergate, there was not the division among American voters which is so painfully damaging our country now.
If Watergate had never occurred and Nixon had finished his second term without any other scandal, he would be viewed as a competent president whose achievements were notable, and his political views would be considered closer to those of most moderate Democrats today rather than your average present-day Republican. Even with full knowledge of Nixon's efforts to cover up Watergate, current views of him seem to be much more favorable than was the case prior to Trump's occupation of the Oval Office. I think by comparison, Nixon doesn't look so bad...
Nixon did grave damage to his country and to his own reputation, but no one ever considered him a traitor or in thrall to foreign governments and/or foreign influences. Nor was he a womanizer. He was a career politician who read widely and was knowledgeable, and was a good speaker, as was widely recognized before Watergate. That was why his crude language on the tapes was such a shock to so many, as his public persona was gentlemanly. The bad language opened a lot of eyes to the darker side of the man...and encouraged many to look more closely at him.
This was pretty much my perception of the situation.
I personally think Trump is more similar to George Wallace, who didn't win in 1968, than Nixon. George Wallace, much like Trump, was supported primarily by reactionaries angry about the social changes that were happening in our country. Back then, just like now, a certain segment of the population wanted an authoritarian to set people in line by force. Nixon had a more broad coalition of support.
"Remind anyone of that 18-minute gap on the Nixon tape?" [Harvard Law School professor Laurence] Tribe asked on Twitter.
While battling Watergate Special Counsel Archibald Cox's subpoena for the White House's phone call recordings, Nixon's lawyers found an 18.5-minute gap. Nixon's personal secretary—Rose Mary Woods—took responsibility for the missing portion, claiming to have accidentally wiped it.
The claim was widely dismissed, and though it did not prove that Nixon had ordered the destruction of that portion of the recordings, the furor cast doubt on the president's claim he was not aware of any cover-up.
We know now that those ellipses were not where the conversation trailed off, as has been suggested, but were where things were purposely and deliberately removed from this summary of the call.
The Democrats need to demand the full, unaltered transcript be released. And when Trump refuses--and we know he will--that will seal his fate because it will become clear to everyone that he is engaging in a coverup of a crime.
Democrats are in no position to demand anything. Further they will get no cooperation from the President.
The Republican wall surrounding Trump is on shaky ground, just as it was with Nixon right before he resigned. It won't take much for the Pubs to abandon Trump.
Democrats are in no position to demand anything. Further they will get no cooperation from the President.
Democrats are acting within the Constitution, which puts them in the position to demand evidence now being deliberately kept from Americans.
But we already know that obstruction will be Trump's M.O. He's been doing it from the beginning. And undoubtedly, obstruction will be one of the articles of impeachment. Refusing to release the transcript will be part of that crime.
The Republican wall surrounding Trump is on shaky ground, just as it was with Nixon right before he resigned. It won't take much for the Pubs to abandon Trump.
I'm thinking the RNC is trying to make sure the dam holds long enough for the following things to occur.
1) Trump gets re-elected
2) RBG gets replaced by a nominee of Trump's choice
After those two things happen, the GOP will turn on Trump. Mark my words.
This is all about ending abortion and gay marriage. Re-elect Trump and replace RBG and that's now almost a sure thing. Trump will no longer be necessary.
Democrats are in no position to demand anything. Further they will get no cooperation from the President.
LMAO. Did you not read the letter from Pat Cipollone? The White House has already refused to cooperate with any aspect of the impeachment hearings and has instructed all agencies to likewise refuse to do so. What is the President going to do, double secret not cooperate?
1. They hearings are not being held in secret. They are being held in private with plenty of Republicans sitting in.
2. Very soon they will be public. Then what will you excuse be?
With regards to the public - it's secret. Republicans are spectators. Quite the bi-partisan effort to find the truth...
I don't need an excuse... I'm just reacting to what is occurring.
With regards to the public - it's secret. Republicans are spectators. Quite the bi-partisan effort to find the truth...
I don't need an excuse... I'm just reacting to what is occurring.
Wrong. Republicans have had an equal amount of time to question witnesses so far.
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