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Old 10-15-2020, 08:51 AM
 
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But California, Texas, New Mexico has always had more hispanics than Blacks. In addition ever since the US got hold of former Mexican territories in the 19th century, the Mexican presence in the USA has been large. When the US first managed to conquer these areas, hispanics very much outnumbered non Hispanics. They were also considered Mexicans as well.
That's because the US gentrified the area and Hispanics crossed the border illegally. There were only about 75-100k Mexicans north of the border when it was established in 1848.

 
Old 10-15-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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The only way USA could see huge uptick in White immigration would be incentives for Eastern Europeans. Problem is their fertility rates crashed after Communism so there are fewer people there of prime age who would move.
 
Old 10-15-2020, 09:22 AM
 
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Democrats will only allow Third World illegals with three or more kids, six months pregnant and no marketable first world skills.
Europeans with marketable first world skills aren't exactly clamoring to move to the US, bud. Not sure I can verbalize the exact equivalent of the term "dumpster fire" in what European languages I do know, but the concept pretty much encapsulates what most educated Europeans feel towards the US right now.
 
Old 10-15-2020, 09:33 AM
 
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Oh grow up. Typical right wing lies.
The monaca anchor baby was not a made up word for Illegal pregnant Scandinavians
 
Old 10-15-2020, 09:49 AM
 
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Whether or whether not Europeans want to migrate here it's a fact that our immigration system favors Latin Americans and Asians.
Absolute nonsense.

Say you're a US citizen sponsoring an adult son or daughter to come join you in the US as a LPR - F1 family category, not to be confused with the F-1 visa. If your son/daughter resides in (for instance) Norway, the wait time is about 6 years for a slot to open. The USCIS is currently looking at applications for those who filed for a number in 2014.

If said son/daughter resides in Mexico, the wait time is about 22 years. In other words, if you requested a slot in 1998, now is the time to file the paperwork.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ober-2020.html

And of course there's the Diversity Visa - also known as the Green Card lottery - where 55,000 particiapants can apply for LPR status that will be granted if the general requirements are met - medical, character, financial, no criminal record etc.

Except if you live in: Bangladesh, Brazil, Canada, China (mainland-born, excluding Hong Kong S.A.R., Macau, and Taiwan), Colombia, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Haiti, India, Jamaica, Mexico, Nigeria, Pakistan, Peru, the Philippines, South Korea, United Kingdom (except Northern Ireland) and its dependent territories, and Vietnam. Not particularly favorable to Latin America and Asia, is it?

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Old 10-15-2020, 09:58 AM
 
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Well more Jews do continue to move there, and the Jews will never give up Israel and they will fight to the death to defend their homeland.

Well for South Africa, most Whites are too poor to afford to come and start a new life in Australia. In addition the UK has attracted more South Africans than Australia.

Well lots of Latin Americans are white and the US will still experience high amount of immigration from Latin America. Brazil has more Whites living there than any other Latin American country. However Whites are only half Brasil population. Yet the number of Brazilians in America is small, and I believe that number will increase in the future. Yet the biggest source of White Immigrants will be Latin America as it is been for quite awhile.
Brazil’s self reported white population is way overblown. The country is likely around 25% white. The vast majority are visibly non white.

I guess for a country that is obsessed with being white would have a wide curve in what is considered white. Feel sorry for them..
 
Old 10-15-2020, 12:44 PM
 
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But California, Texas, New Mexico has always had more hispanics than Blacks. In addition ever since the US got hold of former Mexican territories in the 19th century, the Mexican presence in the USA has been large. When the US first managed to conquer these areas, hispanics very much outnumbered non Hispanics. They were also considered Mexicans as well.
Nope, see post #101.
 
Old 10-15-2020, 05:44 PM
 
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That's because the US gentrified the area and Hispanics crossed the border illegally. There were only about 75-100k Mexicans north of the border when it was established in 1848.
Yet the amount of Jews in the USA was even less that that during then. Then there was barely any Italians in the USA. They came in waves after. The US is a nation of immigrants. Yet when they started coming in huge numbers they suffered racist treatment. The KKK was later active against those immigrants, and 11 Italians were massacared in New Orleans in 1871. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_...eans_lynchings Yet the Italians the US attracted were the so called swathy Italians from Southern Italy and Sicily, instead of the more Aryan types of Northern Italy. With that they were also Catholic and there was a backlash in the large amount of those people entering the USA.

In Texas 19 innocent Mexican men and boys were killed by U.S. Cavalry soldiers, and local ranchers in 1918 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porven...s%20and%20men.

Even when there were mass deportations of Mexicans of the USA, they included legal citizens who had deep roots in the USA.

Or the KKK mob killing of the Jew Leo Frank, due to being rumoured to have killed a 13 year old girl. Yet there was no clear evidence he was the killer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Frank

BTW the KKK was instrumental of introducting the 1924 quota act. With that act it prevented the huge amount of Italians and East Europeans immigrating into the USA. Even the Jews in Eastern Europe who were persecuted who previously immigrated to the US enmass, was largely reduced. Sure the Immigration quota act allowed large number of people in places such as Germany, yet as long as they are the Aryan type, and not Jewish. Once the Nazis got into power, the US was reluctant to accept German Jews, and very much restricted them to enter the USA.

Of course people around are against Mexican immigration, yet there was a time when people were against German Jewish, Italian and EAst European immigration, even before that Irish immigrants were disliked in the USA.

Yet even so the US is and always a land of immigrants and the descendant of immigrants.

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Old 10-15-2020, 05:59 PM
 
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Yet the amount of Jews in the USA was even less that that during then. Then there was barely any Italians in the USA. They came in waves after. The US is a nation of immigrants. Yet when they started coming in huge numbers they suffered racist treatment. The KKK was later active against those immigrants, and 11 Italians were massacared in New Orleans in 1871. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_...eans_lynchings Yet the Italians the US attracted were the so called swathy Italians from Southern Italy and Sicily, instead of the more Aryan types of Northern Italy. With that they were also Catholic and there was a backlash in the large amount of those people entering the USA.

In Texas 19 innocent Mexican men and boys were killed by U.S. Cavalry soldiers, and local ranchers in 1918https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porven...s%20and%20men.

Even when there were mass deportations of Mexicans of the USA, they included legal citizens who had deep roots in the USA.

Or the KKK mob killing of the Jew Leo Frank, due to being rumoured to have killed a 13 year old girl. Yet there was no clear evidence he was the killer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Frank

BTW the KKK was instrumental of introducting the 1924 quota act. With that act it prevented the huge amount of Italians and East Europeans immigrating into the USA. Even the Jews in Eastern Europe who were persecuted who previously immigrated to the US enmass, was largely reduced. Sure the Immigration quota act allowed large number of people in places such as Germany, yet as long as they are the Aryan type, and not Jewish. Once the Nazis got into power, the US was reluctant to accept German Jews, and very much restricted them to enter the USA.

Of course people around are against Mexican immigration, yet there was a time when people were against German Jewish, Italian and EAst European immigration, even before that Irish immigrants were disliked in the USA.

Yet even so the US is and always a land of immigrants and the descendant of immigrants.
Lol all the buzzwords there Nazis, Jews, KKK. Americans did not want mass immigration particularly from other cultures in the early 1900s just like many don't today. It's no more complicated than that. The only difference today open border liberals name call and label if you don't support open borders, even more evidence and reason to reject their malevolent open border polices.
 
Old 10-15-2020, 06:35 PM
 
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Lol all the buzzwords there Nazis, Jews, KKK. Americans did not want mass immigration particularly from other cultures in the early 1900s just like many don't today. It's no more complicated than that. The only difference today open border liberals name call and label if you don't support open borders, even more evidence and reason to reject their malevolent open border polices.
Well since you appear wanting to return to the 1924 Quota sThe US had passed immigration quotas in 1924, strictly limiting the number of immigrants it would accept from places other than England and Northern Europe. These quotas were partly inspired by the report of the government’s Dillingham Commission, which claimed that unassimilated, unassimilable immigrants from southern and Eastern Europe threatened the integrity of the US. The reports also claimed to describe differences in intelligence and moral character between immigrants of different ethnicities. https://www.newhistorian.com/2019/01/30/seeking-refuge/ BTW I hear in this forum that Mexicans are different in intelligence and moral character compared to so called real Americans and unable to assimilate.

Sure there were Liberals in the 1930s even within federal level that strived a softening of the immigration policy. which failed as the conservatives got there way : Wagner-Rogers Bill, which would have admitted 20,000 Jewish children into the US n the 1930s , was introduced in both houses of Congress—where it failed to pass out of committees for a general vote. Also in 1939 the ship St Louis, which had taken refugees to Cuba and been turned away, sought admission to the US, which also refused them. The ship and its passengers returned to Europe, where more than 250 of its 900 refugee passengers died in the Holocaust.https://www.newhistorian.com/2019/01/30/seeking-refuge/

Yet despite the phobia of Jews then, without the help of the Jewish scientists from the USA and overseas, the USA would not have the atomic bomb in the first place.

Hispanics very much particpated in Americas effort in WW2. Thousands of them died defending the USA then. Yet those that survived when they came home they were treated like second class citizens. According to one former Hispanic soldier, "There was the same discrimination in Grand Falls (Texas), if not worse" than when he had departed. While Hispanics could work for $2 per day, whites could get jobs working in petroleum fields that earned $18 per day. In his town, signs read "No Mexicans, whites only", and only one restaurant would serve Hispanics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispan...rmed%20Forces.

After all those that are percieved to be different culture and way of life, are seen as a threat to the USA. Just like there are those in the USA see Latin Americans as a threat to the USA. All of this has xenophobic tendencies.
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