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Old 11-11-2019, 02:15 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
The UHC is good for a boil on the bum, but not much else.

According to the CONCORD Study conducted by your very own National Health Service, the British medical journal Lancet, and the US Centers for Disease Control, your healthcare sucks.

Cancer survival rates in the US are superior to every single country, bar none.

The 5-year survival rate for the 4 most common cancers is appalling in Britain. Compare:

Breast Cancer: UK 69.7% while US leads the World at 83.9% If you're a woman, you want to be in the US, not the UK.

Colorectal Men: UK 42.3% while US leads the World at 59.1%

Colorectal Women: 44.7% while US leads the World at 60.2%

Prostate: UK 51.1% while US leads the World at 91.9% If you're a man, you want to be in the US, not the UK, because your survival chances are 1.7x better than in the UK.

You can read Delay, Dilution and Denial, by the British National Health Service for an expose on your healthcare.

The US Government has a history of lies, deceit, deception and abuse of its citizens.

There's the Tuskegee Syphilis Study.

There's the 89 Americans murdered by the government during illegal radiation experiments at Cincinnati General Hospital. It's estimated the death toll could be in excess of 380 Americans murdered by the government, but those records are still, um, "classified as vital to national security."

There's the Atomic Veterans. The government lied and denied for 50 years it had ever conducted nuclear weapons tests on US soil in order to not have to pay benefits to the veterans it killed and injured during the nuclear weapons tests. Hotels in Reno used to offer special packages for tourists to come watch the test-shots. They'd have big parties on the hotel rooftops. People would bring their 8mm and 16mm home film cameras and record it. One veteran's wife and children and his in-laws were at a test-shot and his father-in-law film it and the government said "it never happened."

The government still refuses to compensate nuclear fall-out victims in New Jersey who suffer thyroid cancer.

The government didn't see fit to warn the people of New Jersey that fall-out was coming, but it did see fit to warn the Eastman Kodak Company in New Jersey to protect its undeveloped film negatives from fall-out.

The government though film negatives were more important than people.

Then you have the DOD "no exposure" doctrine.

A VA hospital is forbidden from diagnosing a Gulf War veteran with chemical weapon exposure or the effects of chemical weapon exposure, because the government's policy is "we never sold chemical weapons to Saddam, ergo there were no chemical weapons in Iraq."

Nothing fundamental has changed.

The US government simply can never be trusted. Not ever. And giving them control of American's healthcare is just way too tempting for government.

Doesn't matter what kind of safeguards you put in place, because government will find a way around them, or just plain ignore them.

And then there's the issue of statistical data.

How do you know doctors in the UK when preparing a death certificate don't list the cause of death as pneumonia instead of the actual cause of lung cancer, in order to hide the fact that the government isn't properly treating people and to skew the data in favor of government?

Well, you don't know.

Oooops...
I stopped at boil.

You are embarrassing yourself. Truly.

 
Old 11-11-2019, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by Natnasci View Post
I stopped at boil.

You are embarrassing yourself. Truly.
He has the bad habit of doing a Gish Gallop on almost every post he makes, most of which is untrue....
 
Old 11-11-2019, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by Natnasci View Post
I stopped at boil.

You are embarrassing yourself. Truly.
That's because you're Pollyanna with blinders and cannot refute the CONCORD Study conducted by your own government.

You cannot refute any of the facts.

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study is an irrefutable fact.

The illegal radiation experiments are an irrefutable fact documented by newspapers and television accounts and the civil lawsuit filed by victim's families in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, not to mention Dr. Sanger who ran the illegal experiments admitted to it publicly and at trial.

The Atomic Veterans are an irrefutable fact. It wasn't until 1998 that the government finally admitted to conducting nuclear weapons testing on US soil and authorized VA disability compensation, but by that time most of the veterans were dead.

"VA adherence to the DOD "no exposures" doctrine, often in the face of compelling clinical evidence to the contrary, could be viewed as Department-wide medical malpractice. - the Honorable Jesse Brown, Secretary of Veteran's Affairs

You just don't want to see the truth.
 
Old 11-11-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
He has the bad habit of doing a Gish Gallop on almost every post he makes, most of which is untrue....
And yet you cannot refute a single claim I made.

You simply have no interest in truth that contradicts your false beliefs.

We'll wait while you refute the CONCORD Study conducted by the British National Health Service, the British medical journal Lancet and the US Centers for Disease Control.

Go ahead...we're waiting. What's the problem?

Oct 4, 2007 - CINCINNATI (AP) — Dr. Eugene L. Saenger, a physician and ... who led controversial Cold War-era human radiation experiments, has died at age 90...
See also...

Vicki Allen, "U.S. Radiation Test Secrecy Was Tied To PR, Not Security," Chicago Sun Times, December 16, 1994, at 36 (quoting 1947 memo from colonel with Atomic Energy Commission Corps of Engineers), and "General Hospital Radiation Experiments: A Chronology," Cincinnati Enquirer, April 11, 1994, at A4

See also In re Cincinnati Radiation Litig., 874 F. Supp. 796 (S.D. Ohio 1995) (Case No. C-1-94-126)

Ooops....

Which part is untrue?
 
Old 11-11-2019, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Originally Posted by cruitr View Post
In Southern CA we are lucky. SoCal has every possible doctor you could need. We have great year 'round weather and world-class golf courses. Doctors love to live here.

However, we do not have a Mayo Clinic or similar. A good local friend of mine did travel to the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix for his cancer treatment.
They are one of few categories of people who can actually afford to live here
 
Old 11-11-2019, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
33,523 posts, read 37,121,123 times
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
And yet you cannot refute a single claim I made.

You simply have no interest in truth that contradicts your false beliefs.

We'll wait while you refute the CONCORD Study conducted by the British National Health Service, the British medical journal Lancet and the US Centers for Disease Control.

Go ahead...we're waiting. What's the problem?

Oct 4, 2007 - CINCINNATI (AP) — Dr. Eugene L. Saenger, a physician and ... who led controversial Cold War-era human radiation experiments, has died at age 90...
See also...

Vicki Allen, "U.S. Radiation Test Secrecy Was Tied To PR, Not Security," Chicago Sun Times, December 16, 1994, at 36 (quoting 1947 memo from colonel with Atomic Energy Commission Corps of Engineers), and "General Hospital Radiation Experiments: A Chronology," Cincinnati Enquirer, April 11, 1994, at A4

See also In re Cincinnati Radiation Litig., 874 F. Supp. 796 (S.D. Ohio 1995) (Case No. C-1-94-126)

Ooops....

Which part is untrue?
Oh, but I can refute more than one I am sure. The purpose of your "Gish Gallop" is to overload the reader with all kinds of statements, most of which are not even on the topic....I will not be wasting my time fact checking your posts
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