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Old 11-05-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
That that's all you can reply with, demonstrates how weak your position is.


Democrats trying to protect Joe Biden's real Quid Pro Quo and impeaching the President for asking a government to look into the corruption and interference into the 2016 election. Disgusting!!!!
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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My prediction, impeachment by the house in December, acquittal by the senate a month or two later. Meanwhile nothing of importance gets done by congress, and we move into the election of Trump vs democrat. In all, this is all political show and everyone knows it.
I think House Democrats hope to get something that screams of some crime and that some Republicans will remember how much they love the rule of law, the Constitution.

But of course lots of it is for show. Remember just a few weeks ago most Americans were against impeachment proceedings....that has changed.

It's working.

Whether or not Trump fans like it -- the more they uncover -- even if it isn't severe enough for impeachment or to shift tribal loyalties.....it sure is painting a picture of chaos in that administration.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:31 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The outcome in the House in preordained. Trump WILL be impeached. The Democrats painted themselves into a corner and have this one option. It is a losing hand because the trial will expose the House Impeachment as totally partisan and an attempt to undo the Election of 2016.

The Democrat House will have NOTHING to show the voters in 2020 - NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS except a vendetta to get Trump that sidetracked all possible legislation that could benefit the American People.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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My prediction, impeachment by the house in December, acquittal by the senate a month or two later. Meanwhile nothing of importance gets done by congress, and we move into the election of Trump vs democrat. In all, this is all political show and everyone knows it.
Political show, good god. Do you honestly want to live in a country where it's OK for our incumbent politicians to bribe and blackmail foreign governments to dig up dirt on political enemies? Because if you let this go this time, you bet your sweet ass this will backfire on you next time. You know, like that pesky impeachment inquiry secrecy rule adopted in 2015 by House Republicans that you all are crying about now.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I just saw Lindsay Graham being interviewed about Sondlands statement.

He said he doesn't care what Sondland says, he believes the President of Ukraine

What a sad, sad, pathetic excuse for a senator Graham has become. He really has zero credibility left and he knows it, but at this point he's in too deep and there's no way for him to save face.
The president of Ukraine said three times, no pressure, No Quid pro quo.. that is who Trump was dealing with. Those other guys are just fodder. They have an opinion,, that is it.. facts are facts.. no conjecture, not speculation. The president of Ukraine trumps everyone elses opinion or conjecture, or speculation.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Crooked Trump belongs in jail. Lock him up.
For what? What is the crime? Tell me, what are we charging him with that would send him to prison.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:34 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Democrats trying to protect Joe Biden's real Quid Pro Quo and impeaching the President for asking a government to look into the corruption and interference into the 2016 election. Disgusting!!!!
No, my dear. Trump was attempting to influence the 2020 election.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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The outcome in the House in preordained. Trump WILL be impeached. The Democrats painted themselves into a corner and have this one option. It is a losing hand because the trial will expose the House Impeachment as totally partisan and an attempt to undo the Election of 2016.

The Democrat House will have NOTHING to show the voters in 2020 - NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS except a vendetta to get Trump that sidetracked all possible legislation that could benefit the American People.
https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

Transcripts are right here.

You could read them and actually be informed instead of maintaining a bubble of self imposed ignorance.

It will take some time, I read Volker's today and it took a couple hours. Much of his under oath testimony directly contradicts the narrative you are attempting to present here.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:37 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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No, my dear. Trump was attempting to influence the 2020 election.
Oh, come on now. Seriously?


Accusing Trump of trying to get a foreign government to find information on a political opponent. Who can say that with a straight face? What about England, Italy, Australia and others literally spying on Trump for Clinton and Obama? Proof everywhere. The dossier, fusion GPS. Heck, Foreign aid to Ukraine helped enrich Biden's and Pelosi's sons.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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The president of Ukraine said three times, no pressure, No Quid pro quo.. that is who Trump was dealing with. Those other guys are just fodder. They have an opinion,, that is it.. facts are facts.. no conjecture, not speculation. The president of Ukraine trumps everyone elses opinion or conjecture, or speculation.
No actually, he doesn't.

Trump supporters have changed their angle on this so many times it's absurd. The President of Ukraine can say what he likes but the facts and the evidence are there. Trump abused his office and should be impeached. No conjecture or speculation.
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