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What does that have to do with the "HATE TRUMP" collective campaign slogan and media narrative on the Left?
You last said they spend more time hating Trump than talking about policy, and I refuted that. Most House Dem seats gains were won based on policy by moderates and not by "hating Trump".
Trump hasn't been charged because he owns the DOJ. He's been using a massive legal smokescreen to prevent access to his tax returns from the State of NY which isn't in his back pocket. Once they're out there, let's start with felony tax fraud and felony bank fraud. It's pretty clear his financial empire has been propped up by Russian mob money laundering since his daddy died and stopped propping him up after every debacle. The Deutsche Bank loans still haven't been investigated. That would be a felony under 18 U.S.C. 1956 and 1957. Not exactly shocking that the Russians interfered in the election to get their stooge elected. As this stuff gets disclosed, it's going to be the Nixon thing where he has no choice to resign because the Senate abandons him.
I'm not sure Trump can resign.
Even if Pence doesn't get impeached along with him, and given that Pence is chest deep in Trump's bribery and extortion scam and by rights he should be impeached along with him, Pence can only pardon him for federal crimes.
In any case, sooner or later, the nation has to quit letting Republican Presidents skate. Nixon was pardoned for all crimes, including obstruction of justice with Watergate. Reagan skated when Bush let the Iran/Contra conspirators off the hook. Bush lied us into two wars and then there were the torture memos. But Obama decided getting the economy up and running was the priority.
Republicans are little more than a criminal conspiracy, and sooner or later the nation needs to put a stop to it.
The whole impeachment over this phone call is a joke.
It's literally nothing but a political Hail Mary pass by Congressional Dems, who know that they can't win against Trump in this economy.
An attempt to weaken the President, and control the narrative into 2020.
All the talk about whether or not there was Quid Pro Quo is irrelevant.
All the hearings.
All the witnesses being called.
All a waste of time.
All a dog and pony show.
The Senate will never convict.
Not a waste of time. Your president is NOT ABOVE THE LAW. The senate back during the bogus Clinton impeachment did not (and wouldn't have) convict but partisan and hateful house republicans impeached him anyway. So talk to the hand with that bs.
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Bill Clinton was dragged through the same thing. It’s what partisan politics is all about.
Thank you. And this was definitely a waste of time that started with a failed land deal (where Clinton lost money) and ended with a lie over consenting adults looking for a happy ending.
Do Democrats not know that the Senate will never vote to convict?
And the Republicans were never going to quit on Nixon until they did. No one knows what is going to happen. I think a lot of folks think they know and maybe they are right. But no one knows. Besides, is this how justice is normally served?
I'm disappointed in Republicans. Appears they have no faith that their Senators will be fair and impartial in listening to the evidence and weighing in on a fair, and just verdict.
I'm disappointed in Republicans. Appears they have no faith that their Senators will be fair and impartial in listening to the evidence and weighing in on a fair, and just verdict.
Don't tell me they've already been bought off?
Verdict over what? The Democrats haven't started the impeachment of the President for anything.
Democrat "impeachment hearings" = Russiagate/Mueller hearings = Fodder for the truly stupid and deranged.
I completely expect Republicans to put party over country but I believe that this inquiry and potential impeachment are completely necessary. The most important thing that needs to come out of this is the standard is that the act is unacceptable and worthy of removal so that future presidents are aware that there is the possibility that such actions can lead to their removal.
Republicans are being short sighted as usual and when a Democrat attempts to do something like this in future they are going to scream bloody murder and want to impeach and remove but it won't be possible because they will have allowed this behavior to stand. Their usual MO is, they like playing with unfair rules until those rules are used against them.
And I never said that I thought Dems shouldn't impeach.......
Just that it's a useless, partisan endeavor to try to salvage some chance at 2020.
So what should the democrats in the house do relative to Trumps actions, just ignore.
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