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Old 11-06-2019, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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So according to you. There is no longer any significant Russian Meddling in our election system? Yes or No is a complete answer.
Wow, I love the way you load your questions to restrict the choice of answers.

There was no meddling in yesterday's election. It is impossible to know yet if Russians will try to meddle in next year's election.
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Old 11-06-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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This nicely sums up why the Russians put Trump in power:

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“They say Trump is making Russia great. That’s basically accurate,” pointed out Karen Shakhnazarov, CEO of Mosfilm Studio and a prominent fixture on Russian state television. “The chaos brought by Trump into the American system of government is weakening the United States. America is getting weaker and now Russia is taking its place in the Middle East. Suddenly, Russia is starting to seriously penetrate Africa... So when they say that Trump is weakening the United States—yes, he is. And that’s why we love him... The more problems they have, the better it is for us.”
Thanks to Rand Paul, Russian Media Are Naming the Alleged Whistleblower
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Old 11-06-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Why Didn't The Russians Stop the Democrats from Winning in VA,KY and PA?

I guess the GOP can't count on them for everything.
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Old 11-07-2019, 12:01 AM
 
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So according to you. There is no longer any significant Russian Meddling in our election system? Yes or No is a complete answer.

Only the Russians would know that. All we can say is their influence was most likely reduced.



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Old 11-07-2019, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Exactly, Trump won by a minuscule margin in four states. Russian propaganda (and James Comey) most likely had an effect on those voters.


The November 2020 may be different however as Russian and other foreign powers may be emboldened by Trump's implicit and explicit consent to such interference and may be more aggressive in actively hacking our voting machines.



If you have any proof that anything Russia did had any effect on the 2016 election, please do post it up.


Fact:


There is no outside influence that would make anyone who was inclined to vote for a Left wing candidate like Hillary vote for Trump instead.
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Old 11-07-2019, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Democrats say they can't get elected anymore because of Russian interference and that Trump has colluded with them to make it happen. Hillary Clinton says she lost because of the Russians. Everytime they lose a seat it's because of Russians.

Why isn't the NY Times, CNN, NBC, etc talking about Russian collusion in yesterday's elections?

So if all of this Russian interference is true, how did the Democrats win in VA, KY and make gains in PA? Now all of a sudden there are no Russians and we are back to being washed by a Blue Wave.

How can both be true at the same time?
LOL good point. When Trump won, it had to be anything besides Hillary's unlikability and incompetence.

Now that the democrats won -- Russian Collusion is yesterday's news.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:15 AM
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They probably didn't see anybody in those races that they could manipulate. Candidate Donald Trump was a once in a lifetime thing for the KGB. They don't care who is in office. They just need somebody they can manipulate. This thing with Ukraine is even worse. Now governments know that if they do the president a personal favor he will direct US Tax payer dollars to them.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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They probably didn't see anybody in those races that they could manipulate. Candidate Donald Trump was a once in a lifetime thing for the KGB. They don't care who is in office. They just need somebody they can manipulate. This thing with Ukraine is even worse. Now governments know that if they do the president a personal favor he will direct US Tax payer dollars to them.
Who's son was on the board of that Ukrainian gas company? Trump's, or Biden's? Oh yeah -- it was Biden's son. Guess he just happened to get the job because he was a gas expert and not because he was Biden's son. WAKE UP
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:38 AM
 
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Russian Interference: Translation "I am Hillary Clinton and I LOST the election but I will blame Russia instead of myself. I hope my blind-sheeple will believe me, that is the ONLY way i can live with my FAILURE!
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:54 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Because their big hope was a completely destructive and chaotic person in the White House- holding the Virginia House of Delegates has zero impact on foreign policy.
bingo. Russia does NOT like Trump per se.

They correctly estimated that he would damage US foreign relations, especially in much of Europe. Pretty simple math.
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