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Old 11-18-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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VAERS reports "vaccine injured deaths" due a crash accident.
When a young woman passes out behind the wheel of her car while driving home after getting her HPV vaccine; that fatal car crash WAS caused by the vaccine.

When a man suffers a seizure behind the wheel after getting his flu shot, that fatal car crash was caused by the vaccine.

The COD on the death certificate will still rule the death as a fatality from a MVA.

 
Old 11-18-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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When a young woman passes out behind the wheel of her car while driving home after getting her HPV vaccine; that fatal car crash WAS caused by the vaccine.

When a man suffers a seizure behind the wheel after getting his flu shot, that fatal car crash was caused by the vaccine.

The COD on the death certificate will still rule the death as a fatality from a MVA.
HPV vaccine is recommended at 11-12 years of age. Not too many driving themselves to their own appointments at that age, especially when the parent has to give permission for the vaccine until age 18!

Do you have any evidence that these things happened on the way home from the vaccine-besides VAERS which anyone can report anything to? People have reported turning into Wonder Woman and the Incredible Hulk after vaccines.

What about these gunshot wound deaths? "The vaccine she got made her friend shoot her"?
 
Old 11-18-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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So do you know what these genetic risk factors are? I don't. When my daughter had her genetic testing after her blood clot, the doctor identified two genes that made her uniquely more susceptible to clotting from birth control pills. I've always wondered if those same genes gave her the problem with her vaccine.

This is the real science we need, more good information for parents and doctors to protect the small number of children who may have risks. Maybe someday in the future genetic testing will be as affordable and common as the vaccines.
They do know. Pharmacogenomics & Vaccinomics have been researched for over 20 years.

There is enough data now that they COULD be offering risk screening similar to genetic counseling. The problem is that some of those genetic variants are frequent enough in populations to disrupt herd immunity if they were to advise people that they were at risk from a vaccine.

It is preferred by our CDC, NIH & WHO; that we continue to play vaccine-roulette. Those of us who suffer death & disability from a vaccine are apparently considered an 'acceptable loss'.

It is effectively a eugenics protocol that will continue to escalate with each new vaccine placed on the schedule. In the 1980s kids received about 30 doses of seven vaccines. Today; kids receive 72 doses of 19 vaccines.

In states losing their exemptions; they can add as many vaccines as they want & they will be considered mandatory to attend school. In New York already; there are kids who were caught up on their vaccines to attend school & can now no longer attend school because they are in the hospital.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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I came across this article today about an Amish fail who filed a lawsuit seeking to overturn NY’s law eliminating religious exemptions. The kids in the family attend a privately run Amish run school in NY but will no longer be ale to attend due to this new law. The school also might close because many families there cannot and will not comply.

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Stoltzfus’ opposition to immunization is in part due to a belief “God made his children ‘right and good’ and to vaccinate his children is to lose faith in God,” the lawsuit states.

It added he believes “to rely on a manmade solution would be an act of disbelief in the power of our God to heal and protect us.”
https://www.democratandchronicle.com...al/4021371002/

Looks like the judge didn’t care about the Amish. https://wskg.org/news/new-york-court...-for-vaccines/
 
Old 11-18-2019, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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They do know. Pharmacogenomics & Vaccinomics have been researched for over 20 years.

There is enough data now that they COULD be offering risk screening similar to genetic counseling. The problem is that some of those genetic variants are frequent enough in populations to disrupt herd immunity if they were to advise people that they were at risk from a vaccine.

It is preferred by our CDC, NIH & WHO; that we continue to play vaccine-roulette. Those of us who suffer death & disability from a vaccine are apparently considered an 'acceptable loss'.

It is effectively a eugenics protocol that will continue to escalate with each new vaccine placed on the schedule. In the 1980s kids received about 30 doses of seven vaccines. Today; kids receive 72 doses of 19 vaccines.

In states losing their exemptions; they can add as many vaccines as they want & they will be considered mandatory to attend school. In New York already; there are kids who were caught up on their vaccines to attend school & can now no longer attend school because they are in the hospital.
Please post some links to this "screening" that "they" could be offering.

This eugenics stuff is just OTT.

In 1980, kids received 3041 antigens (proteins that are reactogenic). In 2017 (and the immunization schedule hasn't changed since then) they got 177, about 6% of what kids got in 1980.
https://vaxopedia.org/2016/09/07/antigens-in-vaccines/
 
Old 11-18-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I came across this article today about an Amish fail who filed a lawsuit seeking to overturn NY’s law eliminating religious exemptions. The kids in the family attend a privately run Amish run school in NY but will no longer be ale to attend due to this new law. The school also might close because many families there cannot and will not comply.


https://www.democratandchronicle.com...al/4021371002/

Looks like the judge didn’t care about the Amish. https://wskg.org/news/new-york-court...-for-vaccines/
The Amish religion does not oppose vaccines.
https://www.healio.com/pediatrics/pr...mish-community
"Amish parents who do not immunize their children are more likely to be concerned about potential adverse events related to vaccines, as opposed to religious beliefs, according to a study by researchers at Akron Children’s Hospital in Ohio."

A newer article: https://www.verywellhealth.com/amish...-lower-3971479
"He says Amish vaccinations rates are lower than the general population's, but younger Amish are more likely to be vaccinated than older generations."

And for the Amish that don't vaccinate: https://www.aappublications.org/news...Vaccines080217
"While 81% of the hospitalized children were non-Plain, Amish children were hospitalized for VPD at more than twice their rate.

Plain (Amish) children contracted both Haemophilus influenzae type b and tetanus more frequently than non-Plain children."


Hib disease and tetanus are both horrible infections with high death rates.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 01:32 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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I came across this article today about an Amish fail who filed a lawsuit seeking to overturn NY’s law eliminating religious exemptions. The kids in the family attend a privately run Amish run school in NY but will no longer be ale to attend due to this new law. The school also might close because many families there cannot and will not comply.


https://www.democratandchronicle.com...al/4021371002/

Looks like the judge didn’t care about the Amish. https://wskg.org/news/new-york-court...-for-vaccines/
Yes, there is a school in NY that has lost 10% of its enrollment.

Mississippi & West Virginia have had no religious or philosophical exemptions to vaccines since 1979.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/fu...haff.2015.1172

Mississippi & West Virginia also are ranked 49th & 50th in education. The two most uneducated states in the nation.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/karsten.../#e8a6e1e51e17
 
Old 11-18-2019, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by MissTerri View Post
I came across this article today about an Amish fail who filed a lawsuit seeking to overturn NY’s law eliminating religious exemptions. The kids in the family attend a privately run Amish run school in NY but will no longer be ale to attend due to this new law. The school also might close because many families there cannot and will not comply.


https://www.democratandchronicle.com...al/4021371002/

Looks like the judge didn’t care about the Amish. https://wskg.org/news/new-york-court...-for-vaccines/
A measles outbreak in an Amish community in Ohio in 2014 was controlled by vaccination.

https://www.healio.com/infectious-di...asles-outbreak
 
Old 11-18-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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The Amish religion does not oppose vaccines.
https://www.healio.com/pediatrics/pr...mish-community
"Amish parents who do not immunize their children are more likely to be concerned about potential adverse events related to vaccines, as opposed to religious beliefs, according to a study by researchers at Akron Children’s Hospital in Ohio."

A newer article: https://www.verywellhealth.com/amish...-lower-3971479
"He says Amish vaccinations rates are lower than the general population's, but younger Amish are more likely to be vaccinated than older generations."

And for the Amish that don't vaccinate: https://www.aappublications.org/news...Vaccines080217
"While 81% of the hospitalized children were non-Plain, Amish children were hospitalized for VPD at more than twice their rate.

Plain (Amish) children contracted both Haemophilus influenzae type b and tetanus more frequently than non-Plain children."


Hib disease and tetanus are both horrible infections with high death rates.
The fact that you think you know what this man who happens to be Amish believes in regards to his religion more then he does is problematic for several reasons.

None of the kids at the private Amish school are vaccinated so I’m assuming it will have to shut down.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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A measles outbreak in an Amish community in Ohio in 2014 was controlled by vaccination.

https://www.healio.com/infectious-di...asles-outbreak
And? It doesn’t change the fact that this private Amish school will have to close down because NY state took away religious exemptions.
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