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Old 11-07-2019, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
Poor inner-city neighborhoods overwhelmingly support the DNC.
Those who rob Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul.

 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:13 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Well, only the uneducated will believe that coal will come back....or that trade wars are easy to win. So....
Trade wars might not be easy to win but the first step toward winning a war is willing to fight and stand up for yourself and a leader who will also. We have had both parties in the last 30 years turn their back on the people regarding globalism, promising it to bring prosperity which to some it did while others suffered. The biggest winners in the last 30 years have been the globalists who see money and abundant cheap labor with out nationalistic boundaries or national loyalty. If it makes me nationalistic to want to bring back a somewhat level trade balance then I am, which just today in another thread a known leftist poster said nationalism is wrong.

As far as coal which leads to the climate change debate, those that talk about climate change being the upmost emergency and rally that scientists say so and so, praising science and again, saying those that question climate change as being "uneducated", the other night I was watching a show on astrophysics regarding the big bang , dark matter and dark energy and the scientists themselves said "we just don't know" and how years ago it was accepted that the atom was the founding basis of matter and now we know we were wrong

I admire scientists, but I know that their word or say so is not the mighty written be it be all, all the time, they don't always know even when they think they do, they don't always agree, and they are human with egos, with pride, with desire for wealth and recognition just like anyone else. Bring in a politically hot topic like climate change and it makes it worse. So whatever to those on the left that say those are on the right are anti-science or uneducated it is not true. What I do know for fact is the want for power and money will twist truth fast and there is a lot of power and money to made and had in the MAN MADE climate change cause.

Everything the left has proposed in fighting climate change involves the people being taxed more, wealth being redistributed, government controlling more and having more power over people's lives, and social engineering over people, all of which is classic socialist doctrine, so you tell me I'm not suppose to skeptical of their motivation?
 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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If 50% of college professors were liberal, instead of the over 90% that are, the argument in this thread might be valid. There is no way that some element of bias in what the students are taught, does not enter into their opinions after graduating. Call it brainwashing or bias in what is taught, it works just the same.

People who did not go through that experience may be in a better position to see it for what it is.
I'm a high school drop out, and while I lean Republican fiscally (not socially) I lean away from Trump.

Far, far away....

On the other hand, my sister is the same, GED, and she is very Democrat, though we meet in the middle a lot.

You will some walk lock step with their party, and others..... make independent decisions.
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Old 11-07-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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If 50% of college professors were liberal, instead of the over 90% that are, the argument in this thread might be valid. There is no way that some element of bias in what the students are taught, does not enter into their opinions after graduating. Call it brainwashing or bias in what is taught, it works just the same.

People who did not go through that experience may be in a better position to see it for what it is.
Yes, the educated tend to be more liberal but that does not prove it is due to "brainwashing." Too simplistic an argument.
 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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Trump made no such distinctions. He called for the ban of ALL MUSLIMS coming into our country.
Not a fan of Pres Trump. But not a fan of the bs that the msm spews, either.

He said to ban travel of persons from certain (heavily Muslim) countries until the US has a better way to vet those wanting in.

With the outrageous exaggerations and half truths put forth by the news media (all of them), I've had to spend a lot of time doing my own research on what Trump actually says and does. And I find myself liking quite a bit about him.
 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Yes, we know Trump's candidacy was founded on conservative white nativism and resentment of American progress.

That was clear in the various minority groups he chose to demonize, Mexicans, Muslims, and others.
Is that how Trump flipped blue states that voted for Obama 4 years prior?

lol
 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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Not a fan of Pres Trump. But not a fan of the bs that the msm spews, either.

He said to ban travel of persons from certain (heavily Muslim) countries until the US has a better way to vet those wanting in.

With the outrageous exaggerations and half truths put forth by the news media (all of them), I've had to spend a lot of time doing my own research on what Trump actually says and does. And I find myself liking quite a bit about him.
I know, and the liberal left just lap up the fake news and exaggerations that the media feeds them instead of finding out what the facts are for themselves. So many examples in this forum alone of posters that repeat untruths and half-truths especially about what Trump says and does because that's what they "heard".
 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:32 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Education starts with the want to know, it then continues with actually listening to various sources and opinions, the topic of college always seems to take the forefront of what is deemed being "educated" but there is no way someone can make a educated support for gun control when they know nothing about guns, there is no way someone can make a educated support for making a constitutional amendment that marriage is only between a man and woman when they say they support individual liberty, just to use a left and right topic as examples.
 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Yes, the educated tend to be more liberal but that does not prove it is due to "brainwashing." Too simplistic an argument.
The college grads who do a liberal arts program tend to be more liberal.

College grads who do other programs have a greater political diversity.

Most engineers that I know are Republicans.
 
Old 11-07-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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I know, and the liberal left just lap up the fake news and exaggerations that the media feeds them instead of finding out what the facts are for themselves. So many examples in this forum alone of posters that repeat untruths and half-truths especially about what Trump says and does because that's what they "heard".
The fake news comes out of Trump's mouth and his supporters just lap it up. He's on video saying things he says he didn't say lol
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